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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#113526: Dec 3rd 2019 at 10:55:15 PM

[up][up]Spiderman have one of two things to said about clones, none of them are good.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#113527: Dec 4th 2019 at 3:32:59 AM

Huh. I got a lot of "cool" from this teaser and not a lot of "story". I guess that'll have to wait for the next one.

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#113528: Dec 4th 2019 at 5:40:18 AM

There was a Captain Canuck, but it had nothing to do with Marvel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Canuck

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#113529: Dec 4th 2019 at 5:57:53 AM

And then there is Captain Canada.

Edited by Blueace on Dec 4th 2019 at 10:58:11 AM

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#113530: Dec 4th 2019 at 8:23:36 AM

[up][up][up] That, presumably, is why this is considered a teaser rather than a full trailer. We don't even know exactly when this is taking place, other than "before Endgame."

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#113531: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:00:23 AM

wild mass guessIt happens after Engame, returning the Soul Gen did bring her back to life, but he told Cap to keep it a secret as after becoming an Avenger, bejng a spy was imposible as everybody knew herwild mass guess

Edited by eligram on Dec 4th 2019 at 2:01:02 PM

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#113532: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:20:58 AM

According to the official subtitles the person she was talking to at the start of the trailer was Thaddeus Ross. I’m guessing this is set during the Snap Era.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#113533: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:23:10 AM

Pretty sure it's confirmed to be see between Civil War and Infinity War, so uh.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113534: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:26:00 AM

[up]x4 I believe we also know it's taking place after Civil War. And I think we can pretty reasonably narrow the window to "after Civil War, but before she joined Captain America's team".

But that's just for where the events of the main plot take place in the timeline. There could be a modern framing device and/or soul gem shenanigans involved. Plus some additional flashbacks to Natasha's origin story (her training in the Red Room, work for the KGB, and ultimately her defection to SHIELD).

Edited by Falrinn on Dec 4th 2019 at 1:28:03 PM

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#113535: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:29:28 AM

Snap Era would have her blond (or growing out of her blond hair) If its post Civil War its possible Ross is hunting her down, maybe catching up with her and cutting a deal.

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#113536: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:56:37 AM

Screenshots of Ross show him digitally de-aged, so at least some of the movie takes place before TIH.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113537: Dec 4th 2019 at 10:58:37 AM

Someone found an Easter egg in the Black Widow trailer that points towards a certain Russian someone...

Apparently there's what appears to be a baby bear. Can you say Ursa Major? What's more, Ursa Major is said to be a human mutant, so yay mutant representation in the MCU?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 4th 2019 at 2:00:21 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#113538: Dec 4th 2019 at 12:17:36 PM

I don't know if "there's a tiny Bear figurine on someone's desk" really tracks to "this is a reference one specific bear-themed character from Marvel Universe."

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#113539: Dec 4th 2019 at 12:36:56 PM

[up][up]You got anything meatier, buddy?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113540: Dec 4th 2019 at 1:51:38 PM

Whoa: Marvel fired the showrunner and entire writing staff for Tigra & Dazzler, one of their new cartoons for Hulu. It was cited as "creative differences," but that's kind of harsh.

The showrunner was Erica Rivinoja, who was a writer/producer on South Park. It looks like Chelsea Handler may still be producing the show, but I have no idea who they are going to get to showrun and write it.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#113541: Dec 4th 2019 at 1:53:48 PM

Plus even if they DID use Ursa Major there's no reason to believe they have to keep the mutant background. Just make up some typical pseudo-science military experiment baloney and hey presto.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#113542: Dec 4th 2019 at 1:57:57 PM

The idea of a talking intelligent bear in what is otherwise a spy thriller is so comic book esque it’s perfect.

[up][up]Whatever they came up with must have not endeared itself to people in the slightest. How bad could it have been?

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#113543: Dec 4th 2019 at 2:07:31 PM

[up][up][up]...Yikes.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#113544: Dec 4th 2019 at 2:12:05 PM

Poor Dazzler

Just Makima.
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#113545: Dec 4th 2019 at 2:12:54 PM

For a reaction that bad... what they were doing something Batman and Robin level bad?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#113546: Dec 4th 2019 at 2:15:21 PM

[up] It depends on what (and which branch of) Marvel considers to be bad.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113547: Dec 4th 2019 at 2:16:41 PM

I don't know. It's possible that it just wasn't funny — after all, the description of the show calls them "woke superheroes," so maybe they were trying to be topical and failed?

I mean, I would kind of prefer a version of the show that's like Broad City, but with superheroes. I think that would be neat.

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#113549: Dec 4th 2019 at 3:11:50 PM

Yeah, that had been reported before. Universal holds the distribution rights of that one, so it will not be available in the foreseeable future (if ever). Same goes for the MCU Spider-Man films.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#113550: Dec 4th 2019 at 3:18:46 PM

For those who don't know the character's comic history like me he was basically the Russian equivalent to Captain America during WWII, a Chummy Commie named Aleksey Lebedev who even worked alongside Cap on a couple secret missions.

...it always bugged me how there was an America super soldier project but seemingly no other ones, or successful ones at least. I'm glad this character exists.

Like. That serum could not have been that impossible to reproduce. Some 40-50 years later a bunch of people get bitten by a radioactive spider, a scientist gets hit with just the right amount of nuclear radiation to become the Hulk, and four people go into outer space and get hit with cosmic rays that give them super powers. an ex-con ends up getting tested on and coming out with bulletproof skin.

Heck, a cancer treatment created Deadpool. And the best SHIELD HYDRA can come up with is Project Centipede.

Edited by Soble on Dec 4th 2019 at 3:25:08 AM

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