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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#113476: Dec 3rd 2019 at 6:22:59 AM

I hope Taskmaster's uniform isn't so bulky it gets in the way of the choreography. That's my only fear looking at the teaser.

Edited by GNinja on Dec 3rd 2019 at 2:23:37 PM

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#113477: Dec 3rd 2019 at 6:24:32 AM

They can CGI his costume to make it look extra bulky if they have to

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#113478: Dec 3rd 2019 at 7:13:15 AM

Or just replace him entirely with CGI whenever he fights in full costume, so no human has to perform any choreography. Isn't that what they did with Black Panther?

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#113479: Dec 3rd 2019 at 8:00:00 AM

I just hope that Taskmaster survives so that he/she can appear in other movies or series.

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#113480: Dec 3rd 2019 at 8:25:51 AM

[up][up] I dunno, the appeal of this kind of movie to me is seeing more physical stunts and fighting, since the characters are more down to earth. Like, most of the fights in Winter Soldier appeared to be done using real people, and that only adds to it being one of my favourites.

The CGI fighting in Black Panther was terrible, though I concede you do kinda NEED it with him.

Edited by GNinja on Dec 3rd 2019 at 4:29:58 PM

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#113481: Dec 3rd 2019 at 8:40:14 AM

The fact that they are keeping Taskmaster's actor a mystery is kind of suspect...

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#113482: Dec 3rd 2019 at 8:41:31 AM

Plot twist, Taskmaster was the Soul Gem this whole time.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#113483: Dec 3rd 2019 at 9:38:49 AM

After the movie, taskmaster can train and thus fight at the same level as Bucky or Spiderman.

Many may say it's bad writing, but it would be interesting to see those fights.

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#113484: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:05:28 AM

Uh. There's quite a bit of a gap between fighting Bucky and Spider-Man. As demonstrated by the royal curbstomp that Spidey dealt to Bucky and Falcon in Civil War.

That's like training to be on the same level as "Hawkeye and Thor".

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:06:19 PM

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#113485: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:30:57 AM

Eh, I'd compare it more to the strength gap between Iron Man and Thor.

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#113486: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:31:24 AM

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#113487: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:34:25 AM

I hope they take advantage of Taskmaster's potential and have him emulate Cap, Natasha and maybe a bit of a preview of what you'd expect of Shang Chi.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#113488: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:47:05 AM

So, given this trailer is a little over two minutes long, why is it still called a "teaser" trailer?

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#113489: Dec 3rd 2019 at 11:53:38 AM

Totally forgot that film is even in production. But looks nice!

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#113490: Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:33:21 PM

Hey did everybody hear about the Black Widow te-

Ah I see.

  • The trailer music
  • Meanwhile in another part of the universe Frank Castle is shooting up an Irish gang and Thanos is looking for the Infinity Stones
  • Why aren't [Cap/Stark/Hulk/T'challa/etc] helping? Why is this a threat that only Black Widow and the new people can deal with? I mean Fury has to be there at least, right?
    • Cap, Ant Man, Falcon, and Bucky are fugitives
    • T'challa is a foreign ambassador/king and is dealing with his own sh-t right now I guess?
    • Hulk is off-world.
    • Thor is off-world.
    • Team Coulson... might be off-world right now? This is before Season 5 since Thanos hasn't shown up yet. So... they might be stuck in the Framework right about now, or transitioning from Coulson to Jeffrey Mace.
    • Stark... I guess Stark is busy helping Peter. Probably going to be busy from May to May of next year in fact. (Seriously though where is Stark?)
    • Carol is off-world.
  • Wait the bad guy is Taskmaster? The guy whose shtick is copying whatever he sees? That's going to be interesting.
  • I still can't wrap my head around why Iron Man 3 exists.
    • Seriously.
    • Also I can't figure why they axed her in the first place. Hawkeye was absolutely set up as the one who was going to perform a Heroic Sacrifice, and he had a replacement/Legacy Character status.

Edited by Soble on Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:38:55 PM

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#113491: Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:39:32 PM

I am amused by Red Guardian's dorky costume. He seems like a fun guy. [lol]

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#113492: Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:46:38 PM

I presume they didn't sacrifice Hawkeye because A) he has an upcoming television show (that's not set before Endgame like this movie is) and B) they only just brought him back for Endgame, and wanted him in the final battle, whereas Black Widow was around for all of Infinity War.

Though apparently they did have several different versions of that event including one where Hawkeye died, and ultimately chose to go with the one they did.

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#113493: Dec 3rd 2019 at 12:52:48 PM

Clint had gotten the short end of all the sticks up until that point.

I find it a little disheartening just how many people consider him easily disposable. It's said so casually too.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#113494: Dec 3rd 2019 at 1:46:22 PM

[up]x4

My guess is that the movie is set after Civil War but before Black Widow joined Captain America's underground Avengers team.

That means she doesn't really have an easy way to call in anyone at the moment. Other then some of her older contacts of course.

Beyond that, I think it's going to start as a more personal journey and by the time it reaches a scale where calling in the calvary is warrented, there's no time to actually do it.

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#113495: Dec 3rd 2019 at 1:47:19 PM

Black Widow does seem more of a personal quest than a world-threatening problem that requires outside help.

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#113496: Dec 3rd 2019 at 2:53:15 PM

"I find it a little disheartening just how many people consider him easily disposable. It's said so casually too.

"

I think that is why they didnt kill him, he is so easly disposable than doing so wont acomplish anything other that confirmed what people feel about him.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#113497: Dec 3rd 2019 at 3:15:06 PM

[up]The strange case that being a Red Shirt, makes you more difficult to kill.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Dec 3rd 2019 at 3:16:58 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#113498: Dec 3rd 2019 at 3:26:41 PM

Taskmaster is almost certainly Hawkeye, and given Ronin it wouldn't be the first time he's gone by a different name.

Regarding Yelena Belova I'm thinking Natasha's arc will be about her redeeming her from evil to good, the same way Hawkeye did with her.

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#113499: Dec 3rd 2019 at 3:28:30 PM

The strange case that being a Red Shirt, makes you more difficult to kill.

Mauve Shirt?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#113500: Dec 3rd 2019 at 3:32:24 PM

I highly doubt Taskmaster will be Hawkeye. Hawkeye doesn't have move-copying abilities and I doubt they'd restrict Taskmaster to only using a bow.

Plus it'd be a glaringly obvious twist to any moviegoer who isn't familiar with the source character that this mysterious masked man who uses a bow is actually Hawkeye.

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