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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#113176: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:29:03 PM

Well there probably lots of rulers due to the power vacuum,though being spoilsports they'll say everyone was snapped at the same time so there was nobody there at the time.

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#113177: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:29:40 PM

Queen Ramonda, likely

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#113178: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:34:04 PM

If Snipes shows up in the MCU, $5 says he’s Whistler.

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#113179: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:40:50 PM

I don't want Snipes in the MCU,ever,the accusations surrounding him make me go 'nope nope nope'

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#113180: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:47:05 PM

I can see Achebe being portrayed by the pirate leader from Captain Phillips.

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#113181: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:49:42 PM

Idris Elba would have been a good Achebe if he wasn't already Heimdall. While I like him as Heimdall, I feel it's a bit of a missed opportunity since it would have been great to have him in a Black Panther movie.

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#113182: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:54:18 PM

Is there anything preventing them from double-dipping with him since Heimdall is dead now?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#113183: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:54:31 PM

For a while, I've had this random idea of seeing Denzel Washington as Moses Magnum, mostly because I see Moses working as a Wakandan scientist selling secret Wakandan arms to the highest bidder, with a theatrical persona sort of like Tony when he was selling the missiles in Iron Man 1, and Denzel's thing is bringing a jarring, harsh theatricality to basically everything.

But for Achebe, hmm... I keep thinking he should be older (which is why my mind went to Denzel for a second).

Morgan Freeman? Ever since Wanted, I thought it'd be cool to see Freeman as a villain again.

Keith David should be Mephisto. I still think he should've been Dormammu, tbh.

No... wait.

Mos Def.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 28th 2019 at 1:59:31 AM

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#113184: Nov 28th 2019 at 2:20:30 PM

I actually only recently learned Keith David was a live action actor too because I saw him in Shane Black's The Nice Guys (funnily enough I didn't realize it was him at first, but I recognized him specifically because of his voice). Would definitely be cool to see him in a Black Panther movie as well.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 28th 2019 at 6:26:03 AM

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#113185: Nov 28th 2019 at 2:32:31 PM

Fun fact is that Keith David actually voiced T'Challa in the '90s Fantastic Four cartoon, so that'd be a neat Casting Gag.

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#113186: Nov 28th 2019 at 2:48:11 PM

David's first acting role was actually in the seminal horror classic The Thing, in which he plays Childs, one of the leads alongside Kurt Russell's Mac. and much to his credit, he's actually one of the final two survivors alongside Mac.

As for Achebe, I've always thought of someone with a Shakesperean degree of sorts. Someone like Paterson Joseph.

But if Marvel really wanted to go wild, the could get James Earl Jones since Achebe does not need to be a particularly physical role. It'd be wild and a nice nod to The Lion King, I suppose.

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#113187: Nov 28th 2019 at 3:01:56 PM

Does it still count as Black Dude Dies First if a black dude is the first one to die but there are also more black survivors?

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#113188: Nov 28th 2019 at 3:05:42 PM

If there are, say, three black characters but a notably larger number of non-black characters and a black character is the first one to die, I would say it still counts.

If practically the whole cast is black, like in Black Panther, I would say it doesn’t.

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 28th 2019 at 6:06:52 AM

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#113189: Nov 28th 2019 at 3:12:52 PM

What about, say, when a black person is the first to die but the number of black survivors outnumber Caucasian survivors?

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#113190: Nov 28th 2019 at 5:09:09 PM

At that point you're taking the trope too literally and ignoring the actual purpose and nuance behind it.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Nov 28th 2019 at 8:12:35 AM

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#113191: Nov 28th 2019 at 5:25:05 PM

Can't stretch the trope any further, about expected it. Wasn't really that confused, mostly thinking out loud.

Edited by fredhot16 on Nov 28th 2019 at 5:28:54 AM

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#113192: Nov 29th 2019 at 8:11:02 AM

Marvel Studios is teasing something for CCXP next month...

EDIT: The Black Widow movie might have been bumped to April?

Is April becoming the new May to release blockbusters?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 29th 2019 at 12:41:02 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#113193: Nov 29th 2019 at 7:55:21 PM

[up] I mean, bumping the release date from May 1 to April 30 isn't that big a deal. It's one day — and it's moving the release date from a Thursday to a Wednesday, so that Marvel can have a longer lead-up to the weekend and therefore more people can see it the first weekend.

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#113194: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:08:32 AM

Binge reading some of the recent X-Men comics got me wondering.

If Fox already used Apocalypse, how long would we have to wait for the MCU to use him properly?

Plus, Excalibur, the Otherworld, and Morgan Le Fay look like serious hardcore material. How should those get established in the MCU?

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#113195: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:12:47 AM

> If Fox already used Apocalypse, how long would we have to wait for the MCU to use him properly?

A loooong time,possibly never

> Plus, Excalibur, the Otherworld, and Morgan Le Fay look like serious hardcore material. How should those get established in the MCU?

They sound like perfect material for a Dr.Strange movie,maybe somewhere around Doctor Strange 3

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 30th 2019 at 5:13:04 PM

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#113196: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:28:02 AM

In 2000, X-Men became a film franchise, largely grounded in the plight of mutantkind. I decided then that Apocalypse could not be adapted in a live-action film.

In 2011, Thor showed us what comic adaptations can really get away with. But having seen the decisions made with the X-films to that point, I decided that Apocalypse would not be adapted in a live-action film.

In 2016, despite all of my expectations, X-Men: Apocalypse hit theaters. And it was then, coming out of seeing that film, that I decided that Apocalypse should not be adapted in a live-action film. tongue

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#113197: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:35:42 AM

Well, I guess that nips the scenario of an MCU!Apocalypse in the bud.

Goddammit, Fox... sad

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#113198: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:37:21 AM

Doesn't help that Oscar Isaac did noooot have a good time wearing that Apocalypse getup, in addition to having to work with a lame script. I have my quibbles with Thanos but at least he's better than Apocalypse.

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#113199: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:46:30 AM

Apocalypse in the MCU wouldn't work. He'd just come across as Thanos-Lite now.

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#113200: Nov 30th 2019 at 9:46:42 AM

[up][up]I mean, Thanos and Apocalypse are both evil bulky dudes.

If Thanos was realized with CG and motion capture, I would find it hard to believe the same can't happen to Apocalypse in 5-10 years from now, or whenever Marvel and Feige feel safe to use The First Mutant properly after Fox screwed the pooch with him.

Incidentally, was there ever a point where Thanos and Apocalypse met?

EDIT: [up] Damn it. sad

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 19th 2020 at 10:23:05 AM


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