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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#112901: Nov 21st 2019 at 6:59:19 PM

I expect a couple appearances in She Hulk, but beyond that...

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#112902: Nov 21st 2019 at 7:33:19 PM

He's going to be in What if? Though that is not surprising.

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#112903: Nov 22nd 2019 at 1:30:43 AM

Just watched Avengers again after not seeing it for over four years. As a relative latecomer to it and the franchise at large, as someone who first dipped my toes in with Guardians of the Galaxy, it's fine. It's largely just fine. It was hot shit for the time that worked well on getting the team together, but aside from just never jiving with me THAT much compared to Guardians, its feels glaringly outdone and played out. Also, I gotta say it - Natasha's portrayal in here and from the looks of it AOU ain't great and feels even more notably not-great now. Just rubs me wrong.

I think this held up better than I was expecting, but the pizzazz just feels lost on me now. Give me Guardians any day over this.

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#112904: Nov 22nd 2019 at 2:01:43 AM

Yeah, the first Avengers movie is pretty much the MCU's perfect example of "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny. But after 7 years, its allowed to be.

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#112905: Nov 22nd 2019 at 3:05:16 AM

I still enjoy coming back to it after all this time, but making me rewatch AOU is a much tougher proposition. It's not so fresh now but it's timelessly functional in many ways.

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#112906: Nov 22nd 2019 at 3:08:19 AM

I could rewatch the first IM over and over. The rest of the MCU...eh.

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#112907: Nov 22nd 2019 at 3:30:16 AM

Guardians 1/2, Ragnarok and Black Panther and maybe Homecoming would be my ideal picks of the lot to be confined to.

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#112908: Nov 22nd 2019 at 3:39:04 AM

I wasn't fond of Avengers 1 even at the time, since I wasn't invested in the characters because I didn't like the non-IM films. It and IM 3 being underwhelming just made me feel the MCU wasn't for me.

Since then, my opinion has become somewhat more favorable and I get why it was such a big deal at the time, but beyond its third act it's just kind of ok.

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#112909: Nov 22nd 2019 at 6:01:43 AM

Interestingly Avengers was my gateway to the rest of the MCU. Thor is the most important to understanding the film but for the most part it averts Continuity Lock-Out. I found the characters at least engaging enough to eventually go back and check out their solo films, and since I found a lot of their solo appearances to be much better, I guess it means something was done right considering half of the cast were at their worst relatively speaking.

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#112910: Nov 22nd 2019 at 6:18:08 AM

Looks like Jeff Goldblum misspoke and RDJ will NOT be in What If...? after all.

So much for "what is dead may never die," right?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 22nd 2019 at 9:19:32 AM

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#112911: Nov 22nd 2019 at 7:15:33 AM

Hey, if they can't get RDJ, just cast Eric Loomis as Tony again. He naturally does a good RDJ impression.

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#112912: Nov 22nd 2019 at 7:28:26 AM

Agreed. Eric Loomis plays RDJ playing Tony Stark really well.

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#112913: Nov 22nd 2019 at 8:20:06 AM

[up] The guy who voiced Iron Man in EMH? Yes. Yes. YES.

Also, a bit of an update on The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

Set photos have been popping up and there may be someone there that wasn't talked about before...

One of the people appears to be a lady with a pinkish mohawk. Are we getting Songbird in the MCU, ergo, Thunderbolts in the MCU???

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 22nd 2019 at 11:23:02 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#112914: Nov 22nd 2019 at 8:25:22 AM

I'm going to just assume that's a crew member until otherwise stated, since we have no official word on it. But if Zemo does find/hire Songbird, that's another step towards Thunderbolts, which would be awesome.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#112915: Nov 22nd 2019 at 9:41:18 AM

To me it just looks like staff for now.

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#112916: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:00:47 PM

My top 5 would be Guardians 1, Ant-Man, Thor: Ragnarok, Doctor Strange, and Avengers 1. In no particular order.

Special mention to Iron Man 1.

Edited by tiamkara on Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:01:05 PM

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#112917: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:14:41 PM

Mine would probably be, in no particular order: Infinity War, Guardians 2, Winter Soldier, Far from Home/Civil War (I really can't decide), and Age of Ultron.

Yeah, I'm weird in that I really liked Age of Ultron for some reason. I kinda flip flop on it a lot, but whenever I actually sit down and watch the film, I end up really liking it. Does anyone ever have films like that? Films that you don't think back on fondly until you're actually watching them again?

Edited by GNinja on Nov 22nd 2019 at 8:15:48 PM

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#112918: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:27:37 PM

Those are called Guilty Pleasures.

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#112919: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:28:56 PM

They also require thirty lashes every time you watch one.

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#112920: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:30:24 PM

The funny thing is with Age of Ultron mucking up his character their rivals DC had the perfect opportunity to Ultron right,only they call him 'Brainiac' over there.Of course,they've not done anything with him yet so meh

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 22nd 2019 at 8:32:34 PM

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#112921: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:35:30 PM

[up]Is a shame because I have the feeling that luthor would have ended fused with braniac have they futher move the storyline.

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#112922: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:37:21 PM

Come to think of it there's quite a lot of Superman's rogues gallery that hasn't made it to the big screen. There's Luthor and Zod and...that's it I think?

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#112923: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:42:06 PM

And Doomsday

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#112924: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:48:34 PM

@Tobias. I don't think of Age of Ultron as a guilty pleasure, because when I'm watching it I don't think it's a bad movie at all. I'm not enjoying it ironically and I don't feel bad for liking it. It's just that for some reason after some time is put between me and it, I don't remember it being a good film until I actually watch it again.

Edited by GNinja on Nov 22nd 2019 at 8:49:12 PM

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#112925: Nov 22nd 2019 at 12:52:50 PM

Yeah the only Superman antagonist that wasn't used in the original Reeve movies was Doomsday.

The modern era wound up resuing Zod & Luthor.

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