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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#112651: Nov 19th 2019 at 5:10:38 AM

[up][up]I think their play will be to nominate it and then have it lose to Scorsese.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#112652: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:14:48 AM

Another day, another director weighing in on Marvel movies. But in this...it's kind of awesome? Bong Joon-ho, director of The Host, Snowpiercer, and Parasite, stated that he would never direct a Marvel movie, but not for reasons you would expect:

I have a personal problem. I respect the creativity that goes into superhero films, but in real life and in movies, I can’t stand people wearing tight-fitting clothes. I’ll never wear something like that, and just seeing someone in tight clothes is mentally difficult. I don’t know where to look, and I feel suffocated. Most superheroes wear tight suits, so I can never direct one.

Of courses, now all we need is to get a superhero who wears loose, flowing clothes and then Bong Joon-ho can direct that. Any suggestions?

Edited by alliterator on Nov 19th 2019 at 9:17:18 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#112653: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:29:55 AM

So a Superboy movie then?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#112654: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:39:14 AM

a catwoman movie you say?

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#112655: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:50:39 AM

If we go by his vibe of often writing psychologically intense thrillers and also disliking tights, he could function with a take on Legion or the MAX version of Foolkiller though the former has already come off on the heels of a amazing tv show.

With DC he could do a great Sandman, maybe.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#112656: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:53:02 AM

Amadeus Cho pre-Hulk. Would be interesting to see what kind of movie he could make with him without powers and only his brain.

And for an out of the field choice, I say Penance tongue

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#112657: Nov 19th 2019 at 10:28:25 AM

He can always direct a movie about The Question.

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#112658: Nov 19th 2019 at 10:35:50 AM

though I'm guessing he'd be a Debbie Downer on it too

Nah, he would probably like it.

tiamkara Let’s Have the Dark Courage to Sin Tonight from Augusta, GA Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#112659: Nov 19th 2019 at 10:54:01 AM

I didn’t know the guy behind The Host also did Snowpiercer. Does anyone else remember when The Host played on G4 years ago? It’s a really good action-horror movie if you haven’t seen it. Has a lot in common with Train to Busan.

Also I’m rewatching the Marvel movies on D+ right now. I’m on Captain America: The First Avenger so far.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#112660: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:03:48 AM

[up] Does it keep the Paramount logo or nah?

Also, not sure if it's been brought up, but a deleted scene from Avengers: Endgame changes one character's fate.

Namely, it reinterprets Thanos' death by Snap by having the Ancient One establishing that a Snap does not mean deader than dead. It just means that they're "willed out of existence" and are on a different spectrum or something. So theoretically, there could be a point where Thanos comes back.

Then again, it's a deleted scene, so it doesn't matter too much, right? Though if Thanos DOES come back, it's so Doctor Doom can kick his ass a la Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars.

tiamkara Let’s Have the Dark Courage to Sin Tonight from Augusta, GA Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#112661: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:15:01 AM

It does.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#112662: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:42:33 AM

I really don't think they're gonna bring Thanos back.

Sure, they hypothetically could by pulling another Time Heist, recollecting the Stones, and reverse-snapping him back. But why would anybody do that? Thanos doesn't have friends who miss him, just terrified subjects who are happy he's gone, mindless beasts who wouldn't know how to work a time machine, and sycophantic "children" who all died with him anyway.

And Doylistically speaking, he served his purpose and left the stage in a final and appropriate manner that will never be topped. Bringing him back would be a disservice both to Avengers: Endgame and to his character.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#112663: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:47:18 AM

Plus, this isn’t comics.

Death has meaning now.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#112664: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:47:19 AM

alternate Thanos from another timeline

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#112665: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:52:27 AM

I think the deleted scene was just to justify why snapped people could come back and why they didn’t bring back everyone else

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#112666: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:53:20 AM

Sucks for the countless accessory deaths to the snap, like people who were in cars whose drivers were snapped, or patients whose surgeons got snapped mid-surgery. tongue

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#112667: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:57:11 AM

I recall either the writers or the directors talking about how the Infinity Gauntlet cannot actually raise the dead. They said something to the effect that the Gauntlet couldn't bring Nat back because true resurrection is beyond its power, and that it could only bring back the people that were Snapped because the Snap was performed with the Gauntlet in the first place.

I want to say it was the writers; the directors have explained the Gauntlet's inability to raise Nat as being because she was sacrificed to Vormir. But I don't remember.

But that deleted scene sounds like what they were talking about. People who were Snapped aren't really dead, they're just mostly dead, so the Infinity Gauntlet can bring them back just fine. It's just people who are Really Really For Realsies Super-Really Dead that can't be resurrected.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 19th 2019 at 12:57:36 PM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#112668: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:59:16 AM

I recall Rocket on Asgard also said something to the effect that most dead people are 'really dead', those who were Snapped are only 'sort of dead'.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#112669: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:59:16 AM

Basically The snap was like universal Wish spell

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#112670: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:59:56 AM

or putting half the universe in the recycle bin but not clicking delete

Edited by alekos23 on Nov 19th 2019 at 10:00:14 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#112671: Nov 19th 2019 at 12:00:39 PM

So the Infinity Stones can't bring someone back from the dead, but injecting dead people with blood from a random Kree does the trick just fine?

Edited by RavenWilder on Nov 19th 2019 at 12:01:12 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#112672: Nov 19th 2019 at 12:02:25 PM

that turns people into zombies

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#112673: Nov 19th 2019 at 12:02:57 PM

doesn't that need a special stone? tongue

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#112674: Nov 19th 2019 at 12:03:20 PM

[up][up][up][up] That's just about the best analogy I've heard.[lol]

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Nov 19th 2019 at 12:03:38 PM

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#112675: Nov 19th 2019 at 12:03:50 PM

[up]x3 Haven't most of those people come back wrong in one way or another?

Edited by MrSeyker on Nov 19th 2019 at 12:04:23 PM


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