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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#112301: Nov 11th 2019 at 4:34:52 AM

In recent years, Storm has been Wolverine's love interest, which also doesn't really fit.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#112302: Nov 11th 2019 at 4:37:49 AM

[up]I mean who hasn't at this point?

Edited by LordVatek on Nov 11th 2019 at 7:37:59 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#112303: Nov 11th 2019 at 4:45:00 AM

Good point, Wolverine is another one of Marvel's biggest man whores^^

I mean, there was literally this one Arc where he was manipulated into killing half a dozen or so unknown bastard children of him, fathered over the decades.

Edited by Forenperser on Nov 11th 2019 at 1:46:57 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#112304: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:01:16 AM

> I mean who hasn't at this point?

Jean grey for one..

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#112305: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:02:18 AM

Well in the Ultimate Universe he hastongue

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#112306: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:02:56 AM

We don't speak of the Ultimate universe,its a dumb place

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#112307: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:06:59 AM

It actually had some great ideas that are even used in the MCU from time to time.

And I know I'll be crucified for it, but I always found Ultiamte Cap to be a far more engaging and believable character than the one-dimensional boyscout from the mainstream comics tongue

Edited by Forenperser on Nov 11th 2019 at 2:07:13 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#112308: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:16:33 AM

I think the reason why the comics keep nodding to T’Challa and Storm even after they’ve annulled is because it was a ship that actually preceded Hudlin

In Priest’s far more popular run it was revealed that Storm and T’Challa have known each other for a long time and even had feelings for each other BUT that they couldn’t be because of their respective responsibilities

[up] I don’t find Cap one dimensional in well written material for him.

Edited by Bocaj on Nov 11th 2019 at 8:17:51 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#112309: Nov 11th 2019 at 5:21:26 AM

whoops

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 11th 2019 at 1:21:53 PM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#112310: Nov 11th 2019 at 6:41:41 AM

I don't blame them. The dude's ruggedly handsome in a way few other heroes can match.

The legend has returned.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#112311: Nov 11th 2019 at 6:55:51 AM

[up]If you're talking about Hugh Jackman Wolverine I agree. Comics Logan though...

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#112312: Nov 11th 2019 at 7:04:37 AM

Angry little troll.

Edited by Blueace on Nov 11th 2019 at 12:10:39 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#112313: Nov 11th 2019 at 7:26:31 AM

Look, there is only one ship that Storm should be a part of and that is Storm/Yukio.

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#112314: Nov 11th 2019 at 7:29:21 AM

No, there are no ships that Storm should be a part of because choppy waters and turbulent winds are extremely hazardous to seafaring vessels. The best thing a ship can do is steer clear and chart a safer course.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#112315: Nov 11th 2019 at 7:31:39 AM

quick throw her over overboard!

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#112316: Nov 11th 2019 at 7:42:58 AM

What about a spaceship?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#112317: Nov 11th 2019 at 8:19:13 AM

[up] Same idea, but instead of choppy waves, it's killer asteroids.

It'd probably be too expensive to be worth the trouble anyway. tongue

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 11th 2019 at 11:20:52 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#112318: Nov 11th 2019 at 8:21:53 AM

I do remember that Storm can make space storms too

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Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#112319: Nov 11th 2019 at 8:59:47 AM

I honestly completely forgot about Storm's powers while discussing her place in Marauders currently. I pointed out she'd make a good second in command to keep Kate going, and that's the best reason to have her. Then someone else pointed out that, you know...weather control is pretty useful on a pirate ship...

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#112321: Nov 11th 2019 at 9:06:29 AM

Rule of Cool, duh.

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Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#112322: Nov 11th 2019 at 9:40:33 AM

Basically. It's a long story involving the X-Men starting (yet another) attempt at a mutant nation, this time with portals connecting it to various global locations, that only mutants can go through. But not everybody recognizes their sovereignty, and so Kate Pride is sailing around the world as a pirate, simultaneously performing some tasks the X-Men need done under the radar with no "official" affiliation to them, and helping mutants in these nations that won't let them leave smuggle themselves out. She's got iceman, pyro, and Storm on board too. And apparently next issue Bishop is joining.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#112323: Nov 11th 2019 at 10:22:28 AM

The only good thing the Ultimate universe had aside from Spider-Man was having Cyclops blast Wolverine into the ground no challenge & kicking him off the team for trying to kill him as well as Jean threatening to Mind Rape him into oblivion if he ever thinks about her sexually again.

Aside from that...... still the same universe that had Nightcrawler become a homophobic religious crusader & Blob cannabalizing Janet.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#112324: Nov 11th 2019 at 10:40:20 AM

The Ultimate Universe design-wise had some interesting ideas.

Plot wise, I still remember the video game Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions where It uses Ultimate Deadpool, and goes out of its way to essentially make him 616 Deadpool in the Ultimate costume. I think that says it all right there.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#112325: Nov 11th 2019 at 10:51:44 AM

Like any concept, the Ultimate line had its highs and lows.

We got Miles from it after all.

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