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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#112076: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:50:29 PM

How about making Hank such an abusive bastard that he can be bros with Jeff Fischer & Adam Taurus?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#112077: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:52:09 PM

"You shouldn't have made me feel small."

Yeesh.

[up][up]Millar seems to like Superman at least.

Edited by M84 on Nov 6th 2019 at 10:53:01 PM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#112078: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:55:34 PM

I remember finding out that Millar wrote for Superman Adventures way back in the day. My mind was blown.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#112079: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:58:18 PM

Millar seems to hold most superheroes in general in contempt because they don't measure up to Superman.

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#112080: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:58:46 PM

[up][up]That's kind of how I felt when I found out Seth Mc Farlane used to be a writer for Cartoon Network and worked on Dexter's Lab and Johnny Bravo. It's not as big a contrast, of course, but still.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 6th 2019 at 11:00:34 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#112081: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:59:49 PM

That's less of a surprise considering how flawed both Dexter and Johnny are. Dexter in particular is kind of an asshole, especially in Ego Trip. Sending an army of robots back in time to kill your sister just because she saved the world instead of you? Geez.

Edited by M84 on Nov 6th 2019 at 11:02:10 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#112082: Nov 6th 2019 at 6:59:55 PM

I was gonna say also because they don't live up to real soldiers but then I remembered that's Garth Ennies' thing.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#112083: Nov 6th 2019 at 7:01:20 PM

Garth Ennis also seems to have a soft spot for Supes.

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Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#112084: Nov 6th 2019 at 7:04:03 PM

The Avengers is kind of in the middle for me. When I was watching it again for the first time in a while, I can appreciate certain aspects of it and why it resonated with people the way it did, but I still think that once you get past the "wow" factor of the team-up, it's just ok.

Fair take. I think it has a bit of "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny in it; for me being 17 and watching it with 5 other friends, it was an experience. A very subjective one of course, but one that is etched in me with enough fondness, even if there are obviously other objectively better MCU movies than this.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#112085: Nov 6th 2019 at 7:29:03 PM

I got into the MCU because I knew the first Avengers film was going to be a huge event, so I watched all the Phase One films so I could properly enjoy it on its initial release.

So, I'm not sure how much my enjoyment of that film is biased by that experience. I think it's a film I notice the flaws more upon constant rewatches, but it's not bad by any means. I still think it has some good scenes and lines, but it's probably more of a proof-of-concept that a shared cinematic universe could work.

But it made me a fan of this series, so I owe the film that much.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#112086: Nov 6th 2019 at 7:32:17 PM

I watched Iron Man, I watched Hulk, watch the other movies and eventually caught on to the fact they were building up to something...and then came Avengers.

It was unprecedented. You never thought it would happen, but it did, and I was there for it because I had been catching every comic book movie that came out. No regrets I tells you.

I'm glad I was there, and I'm glad I stuck around. Nobody will ever be able to pull off what Marvel did...they can always claim that spot of first to pull this shit off.

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#112087: Nov 6th 2019 at 9:05:45 PM

The first Avengers movie may be an intense case of "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny, but I absolutely get why it was hot shit back then, even if Guardians always jived with me more.

Age of Ultron I haven't seen since it was in theaters and if I can get a chance to watch it for very little if not for free I will out of curiousity.

Civil War, if you wanna count it, was plenty fun but I still don't feel THAT attached, ya know? It was a great introduction to the MCU's go at Spider-Man and Black Panther and I'll still credit it for that, and it obviously annihilates the actual Civil War comics, but it's not that much of a go-to.

Infinity War and Endgame I do genuinely like a fair bit, but that liking of them also comes with a whoooooole lotta caveats that restrain them from greatness, especially on repeated viewings. Doesn't help that one of those caveats is my discontent with how the Guardians sans Rocket and Nebula just weren't handled all that well.

At the end of the day, it's clear that the individual solo efforts (plus the Guardians twins which are somewhere in between) have held up for me much more in the long run than the big crossovers, which isn't too surprising.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Nov 6th 2019 at 9:06:30 AM

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#112088: Nov 6th 2019 at 10:02:53 PM

Age of Ultron is definitely the weakest of the Avengers movies to me. Certain aspects of the first one didn't age well (most of Cap's action scenes are pretty awkward), but I think it at least hangs together better than its sequel.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#112089: Nov 7th 2019 at 12:29:18 AM

It's got more rewatchability factor in my opinion. The action scenes are fun to watch whereas Ultron's felt a lot more mindless and bled together.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#112090: Nov 7th 2019 at 2:03:22 AM

Each of the Avengers movies (except Ultron) did at least have one or two scenes that I really liked. The first had that one money shot of the Avengers team assembled for the first time all dramatic-like and I admit I liked The Stinger with the Shawarma. Infinity War had the forging of Stormbreaker. Endgame had the scenes with Scott reuniting with a now grown-up Cassie and Tony having much needed closure with Howard (I'm a sucker for parent-kid bonding scenes possibly due to my own issues).

But then again, I can usually find one or two scenes I really liked from most movies.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#112091: Nov 7th 2019 at 4:27:37 AM

Like I said, MCU feel more important as whole than thr wsum of is part, which is why I feel more like tv series translate to a big screen, the avenger, specially the first movie hinge pretty much on that, is the reunion movie, the one who asamble the avengers, out of that is pretty shallow for a movie, mostly because the bulk of the story was carry out by other movie.

Age of Ultron have to introduce the villian, interaction between heroes and all that, even stuff like SHIELD being gone mean little if fury can show up with a shinny helicarrier out of nowhere.

one can said that Age of Ultron is avenger without set up.

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#112092: Nov 7th 2019 at 5:57:18 AM

I’ll carry on loving the Hulkbuster fight

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#112094: Nov 7th 2019 at 10:53:35 AM

"We didn’t really shuffle it around a lot. I remember we did have a much more elaborate sequence with [Thanos’s henchman, Ebony] Maw," Ford told /Film. "His battle with Panther was longer. I remember we took it down because when they come through the portals, they kind of introduce all these characters into the story that haven’t been in the movie yet…Panther and Maw felt like, that’s not the story that we’re tracking, so maybe we reduce that stuff."

...there are a lot of scenes I would have tossed off the cutting room floor before a fight between T'Challa and Maw.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#112095: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:00:06 AM

Uh Maw & T'Challa don't even have a rivalry or anything.

Its a weird to have made an extended fight sequence for them.

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#112096: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:02:35 AM

That's a weird objection. Nobody had any sort of rivalry or relationship with any of the Black Order. These are just Weird Space Dudes who show up with Thanos. They're not really characters at all; they're boss fights. Their whole job is to give the Avengers opportunities to do cool things against colorful adversaries.

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#112097: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:03:21 AM

My greatest regret is that the MCU never got to cover Corvus Glaive's secret fear that he's not funny.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#112098: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:04:22 AM

Though none of the Order got any extended fights.

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#112099: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:08:19 AM

Ebony Maw was alright. That's about it.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#112100: Nov 7th 2019 at 11:13:04 AM

Ebony Maw is really the only member of the Black Order to have a personality. But yeah, a fight between Maw and T'Challa is low on the list of things that should've been in Endgame. I completely understand why they cut this.


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