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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#111276: Oct 15th 2019 at 7:49:10 PM

Time Travel plots (and discussions about said plots) inevitably make my head spin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#111280: Oct 15th 2019 at 7:54:27 PM

That was clever of the Looper writer(s), because it is indeed one of the most confusing implementations of a time travel story I've seen

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111281: Oct 15th 2019 at 7:57:13 PM

Combine time travel with alternate universes.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#111282: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:00:15 PM

You know what, let just asume superboy prime punch hard reaaaaally hard and fuck up MCU fo rsome fucking reason universe and that it.

And if you said something about diferent universe I will said shut up.

"In the MCU, all of the fear and ugliness of the Cold War era (and post Cold War era) was essentially a massive con by HYDRA. "

Kinda but not true since the bad guy(I forget is name) is pretty much a foil of nick fury, hell he turn to hydra in order to be more him but in a greater scale.

HYDRA used the fear of Shield to enact is plan.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111283: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:24:13 PM

A thought inspired by me getting a volume of the recent run of Power Man and Iron Fist from my universities' book store during a sale.

I hope when Luke & Danny makes a return some day they are portrayed as closer friends. They are such a lovable pair of bros that its rather disheartening that Iron Fist fucked up Danny to the point of making him a target of mockery by everyone, including even Luke.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#111284: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:28:27 PM

[up][up]Zola outright boasted that HYDRA spent decades sowing conflict across the world for the sole purpose of making people afraid enough to surrender their freedom for the sake of security. Their past defeat had taught them that they'd never be able to take freedom away. They needed people to defeat themselves.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#111285: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:39:41 PM

I hope when Luke & Danny makes a return some day they are portrayed as closer friends.
My hope is that when Marvel finally does get the rights back to the Netflix characters, we get three shows:
  • Daredevil
  • Daughters of the Dragon (featuring Colleen Wing and Misty Knight)
  • Heroes for Hire (featuring Power Man and Iron Fist)

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#111286: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:39:36 PM

Poor Jessica and Frank getting left out.

Clearly they should get a team-up show of their own.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111287: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:42:23 PM

Have Luke & Jessica married with a kid.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#111288: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:53:53 PM

Yeah, Jessica would be a part of Heroes for Hire.

If I had to make a Punisher show, it would be a study in violence, where Frank himself barely shows up (perhaps only at the end).

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#111289: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:55:19 PM

I'm not sure Luke and Jessica get married, I didn't feel the chemistry.

It would also be uncomfortable for the only female protagonist to end up in the kitchen.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#111290: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:57:37 PM

[up]Why would that happen? At all?

You are aware that them getting married doesn't mean that Jessica automatically has to stay at home, right? Like, that's not part of any vows I've ever heard of.

It would also be, how did Nick put it, "a stupid-ass decision"?

Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 16th 2019 at 12:59:04 PM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#111291: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:58:47 PM

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Edited by JoLuRo075 on Oct 16th 2019 at 1:01:54 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111292: Oct 16th 2019 at 12:58:52 PM

In the comics both Luke & Jessica still run their respective businesses even after getting married & having Dani.

Its why they hired a nanny. To watch over their kid while they worked.

[up] What the hell are you talking about? What bleeding destiny?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 16th 2019 at 1:00:00 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#111293: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:00:15 PM

Well, ok, she doesn't end up in the kitchen, but still I didn't feel any chemistry between them.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#111294: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:00:27 PM

[up][up][up]I think at this point, we can say that not everything in the comics is going to be in the movies or shows when it comes to adaptations.

We can take stupid ideas from the comics and shoot them behind the barn, is what I'm getting at.

[up] Eh, that's, like, your opinion, man.

I have no problems with them.

[down]Wrong arrow count.

Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 16th 2019 at 1:03:06 AM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111295: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:00:40 PM

Blame that on the actors & the writing then.

[up] Regardless it provides a way to portray married life when both parties are heroes.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 16th 2019 at 1:01:28 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#111296: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:02:14 PM

Its why they hired a nanny. To watch over their kid while they worked.

I would watch a show that's just Squirrel Girl babysitting Danielle Cage.

This song needs more love.
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#111297: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:05:11 PM

I wonder if Hellcat will return one day or we will never see her again.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#111298: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:05:33 PM

I still feel that the Hydra twist worked because hell even our own, presumably Hydra-less real US government lied to the public about the missile gap, making everyone afraid.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#111299: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:08:10 PM

[up]I liked that twist, too. But I do regret one thing about it: no more S.H.I.E.L.D. has been as a result. Why? I wish it had stayed.

"Scooby Dooby Doo!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#111300: Oct 16th 2019 at 1:12:15 PM

You'll possibly enjoy several seasons of Agents of SHIELD then. They never really went away, they just had to move to a smaller screen and give up on hanging with Avengers.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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