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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#111151: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:51:18 PM

Thinking about it, I guess that's a pattern with my experience with FFH. Some steps forward, some steps backward, resulting in I wanna saw higher highs yet lower lows. Maybe.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Oct 13th 2019 at 8:51:28 AM

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#111152: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:53:48 PM

Well, Peter spends most of Far From Home on a different continent from Aunt May, so not like there's a lot for her to do.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#111155: Oct 13th 2019 at 9:54:24 PM

It's kinda funny considering I just finished watching a video about Gemini Man, which actually offers a theme park-like experience of motion chairs.

"a tickler adds vibration to your legs for a full body experience"

And now they're making a Jungle Cruise movie.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Oct 13th 2019 at 9:59:27 AM

Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#111156: Oct 13th 2019 at 10:26:40 PM

[up][up][up] Well with Disney making films based on their rides, I guess he's not wrong.

Still waiting for that Haunted Mansion remake...

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#111157: Oct 13th 2019 at 11:17:12 PM

I've actually been in a theater that added moving seats and sprinklers and other frills to make the movie I was watching more immersive.

It left me with a sore back and neck.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#111158: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:43:55 AM

[up] Sounds like one of those midnight horror shows that James Rolfe once talked about (and was the subject of Joe Dante's "Matinee").

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111160: Oct 14th 2019 at 1:14:18 AM

I've begun being creeped out by Palthrow when I found out about her Goop franchise.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 14th 2019 at 1:15:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#111161: Oct 14th 2019 at 1:36:39 AM

Yeah, it's kind of a shame that the first two big female characters in the MCU both have actresses who are...not the best people. At least Robert Downey Jr cleaned up his act after getting the role of Tony Stark.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 14th 2019 at 1:37:16 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#111163: Oct 14th 2019 at 2:25:24 AM

[up][up][up]What's the Goop franchise?

[up]May I ask what this is referring to?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#111164: Oct 14th 2019 at 2:28:08 AM

[up]It's a "natural health" franchise started by Gwyneth Paltrow. Basically it's modern day snake oil.

It's pretty much Green Party style pseudoscience bullshit.

Here's the Wikipedia page on it.

Goop has faced criticism for marketing products and treatments that have no scientific basis, lack efficacy, and are recognized by the medical establishment as harmful or as misleading. In 2017, Truth in Advertising filed a complaint with regulators in the state of California regarding over 50 health claims made by Goop, which resulted in a $125,000 settlement and a five-year injunction prohibiting the company from making unsubstantiated claims about the characteristics or health benefits of its products.

Edited by M84 on Oct 14th 2019 at 5:32:45 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#111165: Oct 14th 2019 at 2:34:16 AM

[up][up]Referring to Goop’s infamous “Jade Egg”. tongue

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#111166: Oct 14th 2019 at 8:45:29 AM

I found out about it through this video by Jontron where he talks about it.

“Psychic vampire repellent” wait what?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 14th 2019 at 8:46:01 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#111167: Oct 14th 2019 at 8:48:25 AM

I was wondering why Goop was familiar. The Jontron video jogged my memory.

The legend has returned.
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#111168: Oct 14th 2019 at 8:53:00 AM

When reviewing the cast of future series, I saw that the adult version of Monica already has an actress.

A 32-year-old woman named Teyonah Parris.

Assuming this version of Monica is from 2,023, she must be biologically between 34 and 40 years old, so the age of the actress is fine.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#111169: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:06:08 PM

My one agreement with Scorcese's statements may be the "invasion" terminology, moreso regarding the way large blockbusters (namely Marvel) hit theaters they often start showing in every single room in the theater, to the detriment of smaller films and local films in cinemas abroad that get shoved out of theaters to make room for "Infinity War showing n. 2948", which is a legitimate issue, particularly abroad (speaking as a Brazilian with interest in national cinema).

But even then I'd say the MCU movies aren't the cause, but simply a symptom, of the issue (namely that large studios like Disney exert a unduly amount of influence in theaters). The same thing happened with Joker, for example.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#111170: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:11:04 PM

Variety and the pervasiveness of films from a select few companies is a valid concern.

But as someone who speaks to the power of cinema...Scorsese needs to attack the problems, not the symptoms. If he believes in the magic of cinema as much as he claims, then allow for wider varieties of films to reach it, rather than complain about what’s popular with the masses.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#111171: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:16:32 PM

But that is mor difficult to do than complain about the problem. He'll why do you think the Dark Universe was a thing for five minutes. Because no one could touch Marvel and their success.

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#111172: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:25:44 PM

Yeah, Marvel get more screenings per day, but it's not like they just stop showing other movies. There were about 7 other movies showing when Endgame was at its apex. They were just really uninteresting movies.

The theaters will acomodate their screenings to show the movies that make them the most money on their own. The idea that Disney pushes them is ridiculous.

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#111173: Oct 14th 2019 at 12:33:08 PM

People like to invent conspiracy theories whenever the box office or critical score fails to reflect their personal opinion.

"Disney bribes theaters to only show MCU movies" is just another version of things like

  • Disney secretly inflated Captain Marvel's box office take and RT score to disguise the total bomb it actually was!
  • Insert Media Here deleted the millions and millions of negative opinions that would have dragged down its score!
  • Insert Movie Here ONLY made money because people went to see it just to know how bad it was! Multiple times!

Etc. etc.

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#111174: Oct 14th 2019 at 1:22:49 PM

IIRC don't the theaters themselves have a very narrow profit margin as is? The more tickets they sell the more money they can make.

So if they are Selling out left right and center of the latest MCU block buster and other film has two screens and barely sells out, you bet your sweet ass they are going to cut the later to one screen and put the blockbuster in the newly opened one where they KNOW they will have sold out shows for the rest of the day, so they can you know....stay in business.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#111175: Oct 14th 2019 at 1:40:21 PM

A revised recap of everyone who's discovered Spider-Man is Peter Parker throughout the years:

Featuring audioswapped music at a particularly inopportune point in Endgame.

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