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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#111126: Oct 10th 2019 at 9:24:56 PM

[up]They were testing the shield, correct?

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#111127: Oct 10th 2019 at 9:29:14 PM

They were testing the shield, but given Peggy just picks up a random pistol off the table and fires away, it's not unthinkable it'd have been loaded with blanks. Keeping a pistol already loaded with live ammunition in the middle of a table seems like begging for a workplace accident.

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#111128: Oct 10th 2019 at 9:31:45 PM

[up]It's near midnight so forgive me for what must be a stupid question: why would there be guns with blanks nearby? Wouldn't they already be unloaded if they're not for use on the shield?

Also, can't blanks hurt and hurt hard?

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#111129: Oct 10th 2019 at 9:32:02 PM

We see flattened bullets falling on the floor right in front of the shield.

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#111130: Oct 10th 2019 at 9:35:30 PM

We also see sparks where the bullets hit the shield and hear "pting" sounds when they impact the shield.

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Is this the long-awaited canon return of Ultron to the MCU?

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#111131: Oct 11th 2019 at 5:07:45 PM

Honestly, I think anyone who complains about too many Marvel movies and not enough other films, doesn't even go to the theaters that often.

I do think the MCU has entered Archive Panic status, but that's a different matter entirely.

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#111132: Oct 11th 2019 at 5:28:59 PM

I do think complaining that there's an excess of superhero films isn't that unreasonable, but on the other hand I honestly think there's a decent amount of strong films in multiple genres being released pretty much every year. It's not like it's impossible to find decent cinema if you aren't into superheroes.

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#111133: Oct 11th 2019 at 5:34:12 PM

There are around 350 movies released every year, and superhero movies make up less than 10 of those, MCU movies specifically making up less than 5.

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#111134: Oct 11th 2019 at 5:38:25 PM

Yeah. It just feels like there are a lot of them because of the marketing and pop culture presence.

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#111135: Oct 12th 2019 at 10:59:35 PM

Because comic book have become big things were a lot of movie have veer into it, is more that many "Must see, must wait" are superhero movies, it dosent help some of them are quite generic, have same beats or downright similar and yet they got movie by sheer status, so for some people they are a fatigue.

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#111137: Oct 13th 2019 at 6:23:43 PM

Goddamn, those two are cute together.

And now I definitely want to see an A-Force movie with both of them in it.

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#111138: Oct 13th 2019 at 6:41:23 PM

I'm just happy two of my celebrity crushes (Tessa Thompson and Janelle Monae) are dating each other.

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#111139: Oct 13th 2019 at 6:57:47 PM

Wait what? Really? Good for them!

I'm still waiting for them to cast Janelle Monae as Dazzler.

Wait, hold on: Dazzler was a part of A-Force. It was Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, Medusa, Dazzler, Nico Minoru, and Singularity. If we take away Medusa (sorry Inhumans) and Nico (sorry Runaways), they could just replace them with Valkyrie and America Chavez.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 13th 2019 at 7:02:45 AM

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#111140: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:17:09 PM

Yeah, they've been dating for like a year and a half.

I'm still hoping for Ultimates 2015.

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#111141: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:21:17 PM

Last I heard of it, they were still claiming to be close friends and dodgy on the subject otherwise.

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#111143: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:51:40 PM

I'd say that unless they confirm it themselves, it's frankly none of our business.

Though tbf, I'm generally not inclined to care much about celebrities' personal lives as long as they aren't doing anything horrible.

Edited by M84 on Oct 13th 2019 at 10:53:52 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#111144: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:54:30 PM

Huh. Yeah, after commenting, I'd looked it up, but hadn't seen anything of note. I hope they're still together. Or, failing that, good friends.

Or, failing that, friends with benefits looking for a new friend in me...

[up]This, yes.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Oct 13th 2019 at 9:55:16 AM

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#111145: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:58:57 PM

Alright, new subject: when are the next movies coming out?

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#111146: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:01:07 PM

Here's a thought.

They gotta stop the Aunt May is hot jokes. Like Peter is quite clearly uncomfortable to all the people visibly perving out on who is basically his mother figure.

Its not really funny anymore, I just feel bad for the kid.

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#111147: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:07:42 PM

[up][awesome]

IMO another area where they messed up with Aunt May is her knowing Peter's identity never meaningfully impacts the plot or their relationship. Admittedly a lot of that is outside Watts' et. al.'s control, but it would have been nice to have some sort of "The Conversation" scene (especially since Feige seems to be a fan of that issue).

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#111148: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:18:43 PM

[up][up]I mean, it is weird, especially for Peter, but also I know a lot of older women who appreciate still being recognized as attractive and sexual people, that life doesn't end at thirty.

I say this having not seen Far From Home to know how respectful or bad it got.

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#111149: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:22:54 PM

[up] The thing is, the joke is always Peter being uncomfortable whenever someone mentions how hot she is.

Its literally the entire joke, his 0_0 reaction whenever someone tries making a pass to her in front of him. Hell a good portion of Happy's jokes in FFH is whether he's dating May & once again making Peter feel uncomfortable.

If Happy is gonna appear again, I don't want him talking about his relationship with May. If Peter doesn't want to hear it then we shouldn't either.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 13th 2019 at 8:26:13 AM

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#111150: Oct 13th 2019 at 8:35:13 PM

Far From Home was enjoyable but it was noticeable how Aunt May was flattened as a character compared to Homecoming. While there were still too many "Aunt May iz hotz now" jokes in Homecoming, she was also given depth through her worry for Peter and how much that weighed on him. Concern for Aunt May was what kept Peter wanting to keep his identity secret, and what convinced him to actually try to be normal and stick to the rules when he saw how terrified she was when he disappeared during the ferry incident. Compare that to how her brief reunion with Peter at the airport in FFH keeps her played quirky, rather than anxious about his safety like before.


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