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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The best romcoms are ones that defy the genre conventions, just like the best superhero movies are ones that defy general superhero conventions. For example, two of my favorite romcoms are Shaun of the Dead (billed as a "rom zom com" — a romantic comedy with zombies) and The Big Sick (a romcom where the female lead spends most of the movie in a coma).
Edited by alliterator on Oct 9th 2019 at 8:49:48 AM
Also, I'm super wary of taking a genre that is primarily directed at women and going "well it's all trash, isn't it?" Especially since this happens constantly with media that has a large female fanbase. We don't need no romantic comedies, we just need better ones.
No one says action movies should die off because a lot of them feature 'good guy with a gun' narratives.
I personally can't stand romcoms, but I agree that the issue is most of them are bad and troperiffic in ways I abhor rather than needing to go away entirely. I wouldn't mind seeing romcom elements pop up in genre blender films if only they were less noxious but the presence of other genre trappings would force them to innovate and dilute the bad/cliche tropes. Then again, I do tend to dislike romance storylines in general.
Edited by AlleyOop on Oct 10th 2019 at 11:53:16 AM
I feel like everyone took her comments out of context for maximum clickbait. What she’s really saying is that she wants to see more films without tons of explosions or green screen, stuff that’s easier to film and goes for different emotions besides adrenaline rushes. I get that completely.
As far as romcoms, genres fall in and out of favor all the time. Westerns, disaster films, straight up action films in the vein of Commando (which one could argue superhero films are the direct descendants of). Some years people want to make the next Independence Day, some they want to make the next There's Something About Mary. Genres don’t die, they fall in and out of favor, and wanting to see more when their popularity wanes isn’t horrible.
Add to this with Ticket Prices in Theaters getting more expensive (not to mention concessions and such) people may not be willing to plunk down 10-12 bucks for a plain old Rom Com whose effect is same if its seen in a theater vs at home on Netflix/Amazon/Hulu ect but they ARE willing to pay that for a huge big budget tentpole flick.
That's a crowd that's inevitably going to wane as time passes. "Theater viewing is REAL cinema!" is just the same fear of a changing world that afflicts everyone as they get older.
Mind you, there are legitimate reasons to want to see a film in a theater. Mainly the screen and sound system. But most of people banging the "REAL CINEMA" drum are people who grew up in a time where either the theater or home VHS were your only options.
That's an audience that is going to eventually die and be replaced by people who grew up in the age of Netflix. Both the methods we use to create film and the methods used to measure success will eventually have to change as we move further and further into the streaming era.
Until then, the continued financial dominance of big-budget effects-laden films worth seeing on a giant screen in SUPER ULTRA MEGA INFINITE X1000 SPECIAL HD with thumping sounds that make you really feel like you're right there in the nuclear explosion at the box office will continue. To the younger crowd, there just isn't really a reason to buy tickets to see You've Got Mail in the same theater where you watched Avengers: Endgame.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 10th 2019 at 2:55:45 AM
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I’d point out the continued endurance of vinyl as a format, which means that as long as theaters are open for big budget comic book movies, there will always be a crowd for the magic of cinema, even if it’s in the tiny corner theatre. It’s assuredly a much smaller market than your MP 3 subscription service however.
Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 10th 2019 at 5:47:23 AM
I think we just found our new "What If?" episode.
"What If Peggy just shot Steve dead?"
Actually, I recall reading one of the tie-in comics to Ant-Man that focused on Hank's adventures, and Peggy pulled the same stunt to get him to test his Pym Particles. The lesson here is never let Peggy hold a gun in a lab setting.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Oct 10th 2019 at 11:00:16 AM
That scene is an Obvious Trailer Moment. The kind of scene that exists to look really cool in the trailer, but doesn't really work so well in the film itself and just comes across as jarring.
The trailer doesn't have Cap flirting with the bit character, so in the trailer, Peggy just does that because she's a scary badass who is scary and badass. Which is the better version of the scene in my opinion.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 10th 2019 at 10:12:12 AM
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Aren't plenty of the antics in "romantic comedies" sort of really sketchy and skeevy?
Edit: Crap, I have a page-topper. Um, what more to say?
I'm O.K with the concept of romantic comedies, it's just that, while I admit I'm not a expert, they tend to come with a lot of unpleasant baggage and tropes we're better off without. If the genre can grow past that baggage, good for it.
Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 9th 2019 at 7:34:25 AM
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