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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Meteors hit the Earth all the time, but most are too small to do any impact. Most, in fact, burn up on entry. The only ones that do impact the Earth and cause damage are the ones that are huge — generally, miles across.
Edited by alliterator on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:53:02 AM
Well, it's a cute decently enjoyable little side movie that's something of a breather after Age of Ultron, but it's not too much of a standout. It also features one of the few good MCU dads with Scott Lang. I mean, he's in the same universe as Odin, Ego, Thanos, and to a lesser extent T'Chaka, so it's not hard for him to claim that distinction. @Andrei
Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:51:25 AM
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Ant-Man has some structural problems caused by the new director trying to work with what Edgar Wright made before he left but its somewhat made up by the sequel.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think Ant-Man is an underrated film, although I admit it does have it's flaws.
I remember all the problems that happened during production, particularly Edgar Wright leaving a few weeks before shooting was supposed to start. That combined with how Ant-Man wasn't exactly the most popular hero, and I thought it was going to be the first bomb in the MCU. I was very happy to be proven wrong.
Of course, Wright's film is always going to be one of the great What If's in the MCU, since he's one of the most visually distinctive directors working today. I've heard a few thing weren't in his early draft that would've changed the film (no Falcon, no Luis rambles, Hope had a smaller role, Jan wasn't even the Wasp in this version, etc). I think the film we got was the best possible version given the circumstances.
At the very least, he probably had the free time to work on Baby Driver, so hey. Win/Win.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Oct 1st 2019 at 2:12:08 PM
Also Hank Pym is Crazy Awesome, and it may do a better job at making you care about an ant than A Bug's Life.
Also, the scene I can't stop gushing about
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Individual meteors do heat up the atmosphere. The streak behind meteors is the incandescent air. They're small (sand or pebbles) so the heating is small.
The Tunguska Event
flattened 2000 km^2 and never even hit the ground, disintegrating in the air. It's believed to have been a body at most 190m in diameter. Anything that big pretty much has to break up. The aerodyamic forces acting on it are stronger than the forces holding the rock together.
The city in AoU is at least a couple km across.
So yeah, even if it detonates in the air like the Tunguska object did, it's really bad. Not an extintion level event, but at a bare minimum as bad as Krakatoa
which could be heard 5000km away and altered the world's weather for years.
Edgar Wright's departure isn't what screwed up Ant-Man. His script is. He wrote the film to be about the relationship between fathers and their daughters, but exclusively from the perspective of the fathers. The film's central theme is "Wow, daughters, amirite?"
The subsequent creative team did their best to make the Daughter Lamps into an actual presence in the film. They did not succeed. There was only so much they could do without scrapping the script entirely.
The second film, not born of Wright's script was a vast improvement.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Cassie: "Maybe you need a partner, dad"
Scott: "You think I should make up with Hope?"
Cassie: "Oh, you thought I meant Hope. Yeah. Sure. Thats fine."
So yeah, even if it detonates in the air like the Tunguska object did, it's really bad. Not an extinction level event, but at a bare minimum as bad as Krakatoa which could be heard 5000km away and altered the world's weather for years.
Edited by alliterator on Oct 1st 2019 at 12:59:13 PM
Honestly, that "drop a city and it erases humanity" idea is dumb. Terminal velocity for something that mass and shape is maybe a kilometer per second when it falls straight down from a few kilometers of altitude. It's not even out of the atmosphere and has no orbital velocity. Meteors come in at no less than escape velocity (11+ km/sec) and usually at an angle to the ground.
Sure, it'd make a huge boom and anyone within a few hundred kilometers would have a really bad day, but it's nothing world-ending. Breaking it up into bits minimizes the direct impact, but now you're dropping a few gigatons of loose sand/dirt/rock/metal on the ground instead of one big chunk. Take a handful of dirt and drop it on the ground, but multiply by a billion. Very little of it would vaporize in the atmosphere because it can't gain enough speed before reaching terminal velocity. There'd be relatively little impact damage but a massive dust plume stretching for hundreds of kilometers.
In fact, literally vaporizing all that material would be a much worse catastrophe than letting it hit the ground. The energy required would be like exploding hundreds of nukes ... airborne nukes, at that. You wouldn't set the global atmosphere on fire but it would be a catastrophe on an unimaginable scale.
Breaking it up into chunks without vaporizing it is probably the best option out of a very bad set.
Edited by Fighteer on Oct 1st 2019 at 4:10:46 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Vaporizing the city means turning all of its material to vapor: that is, heating it until it boils. We use that term way too casually.
Breaking it apart is actually quite easy. Something that large has no mechanical stability. Without a force holding it together, it would come apart on its own anyway.
Edited by Fighteer on Oct 1st 2019 at 4:40:30 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Yeah, I don't think the Avengers vaporized the city — it looks, instead, like they shot the city into pieces that were small enough to make no impact. In fact, I believe they shot the city right as the engine stopped, meaning they shot it as it fell, possibly reducing the impact even less?
Hey, you know what would have been good in that situation? EDITH drones.

Why wasn't he an actual ant? That was the one thing I wanted.
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