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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#110676: Oct 1st 2019 at 8:50:34 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#110677: Oct 1st 2019 at 8:51:46 AM

Now your just over reacting

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#110679: Oct 1st 2019 at 8:54:22 AM

Seemed more like most people were more in the mindset of "these are the least great MCU movies, but that doesn't make them bad, no MCU movie is really bad". Not so much "can't stand them" and more "6/10, as opposed to 8 or 9/10".

Personally, I really love Age of Ultron, always have.

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#110680: Oct 1st 2019 at 8:55:44 AM

Alright, ya two. Break it up.

Andrei, nobody's going to think less of you for liking certain movies we do not. You can have your opinion. This is meant to be a civil place.

Ultimatum, please do not try to say that he's "fishing for sympathy". Not cool, dude.

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#110681: Oct 1st 2019 at 8:57:08 AM

Anyway,with Eternals movie coming up I'm not exactly sold on the concept yet,unless it's an introduction of the wider abstracts of the Marvel's universe,I'd love if they had someone like The Living Tribunal show up somewhere

edit:The only 'dud' Marvel made was the Hulk movie and that's about it

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 1st 2019 at 3:59:12 PM

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#110682: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:00:07 AM

I'm really hopeful for Eternals, but it's giving me too many Inhumans vibes for me to unconditionally believe in it. I was the person here most excited for Inhumans when it was announced as a movie, and the person here most burned by how terrible the Inhumans show was.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#110683: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:02:46 AM

Well, the Eternals movie apparently has both a budget and people who care, so there is some reason to have hope.

Edited by Blueace on Oct 1st 2019 at 1:05:13 PM

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#110684: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:09:46 AM

The thing about flying city is that they were trying to prevent world ending scenario

Even if larger chunks hit the ground, well Damage was largely done when the city was ripped up. And later movies say that the country is pretty defunct because of it

Edited by Bocaj on Oct 1st 2019 at 12:09:58 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#110685: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:23:52 AM

Really Eternals will already be better by Inhumans by virtue of having better costume design.

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#110686: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:24:23 AM

> Well, the Eternals movie apparently has both a budget and people who care, so there is some reason to have hope.

All depends on how the average movie goer sees it,it needs to be a popcorn movie with some pretty out there concepts that don't shoot over the audiences heads

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#110687: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:35:30 AM

Honestly, Feige should just declare Inhumans as non-canon and be done with it.

This piece of garbage should be burned and forgotten, and completely rebooted from scratch in a few years.

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#110688: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:38:26 AM

wild mass guessInhumans takes place in one of the timelines the Avengers visited in Endgame thus making them null and void wild mass guess

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#110689: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:41:11 AM

wild mass guessThanos killed all the inhumans,all of them,no survivors

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#110690: Oct 1st 2019 at 9:48:09 AM

Not just smaller pieces — they blew the city into pretty much dust. That's why there was no impact. And even if they had been smaller pieces, depending on the size of those pieces, they would have had very little impact. Most of it would have probably been burned up in the atmosphere.

Which, in the long run, probably isn't good for the environment. An entire city aerosolized into our atmosphere can't be doing good things for climate change.

Still an improvement over the guaranteed extinction event that Ultron intended, though. Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:49:36 AM

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#110691: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:02:09 AM

Also, unless I'm remembering wrong, most of the bigger city chunks fell into a lake.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#110692: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:03:49 AM

[up] Which should've at least resulted in this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunamis_in_lakes

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#110693: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:07:42 AM

Also, unless I'm remembering wrong, most of the bigger city chunks fell into a lake.
There weren't any big chunks and I don't remember any lakes in AOU either. Again: most of the city was dust. As for climate change — that's not really how climate change works. Climate change is due to rising CO2 in the atmosphere trapping in heat. If the dirt in the air did anything, it would have blocked out the sun, reducing the heat and possibly creating a mini-ice age, much like it did in 1816, which was also known as the Year Without a Summer or Eighteen Hundred and Froze To Death.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:08:30 AM

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#110694: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:16:49 AM

The scene in question:

Looking at it, the largest chunks of Sokovia seem to be about the size of a car, which... still wouldn't be good, but I'm not sure if it'd be extinction level event.

Then again, Civil War showed that you could be miles out of the city and still be killed by falling debris. So...

alanh Since: May, 2010
#110695: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:26:19 AM

It falls under No Endor Holocaust. All that energy has to go somewhere. (We'll ignore where it came from.)

"Burning up in the atmosphere" means a huge firestorm that incinerates everything for thousands of miles, and creates monster storms that batter the rest of the planet.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#110696: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:33:37 AM

Something curious is when he was about to release the movie, many theorized that an avenger would die, and flatly said it would be Hawkeye.

The poor is considered the Red Shirt of the group.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#110697: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:34:16 AM

Well he's safe now, with his Disney + series and all.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#110698: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:38:51 AM

I am not sure.

Apparently he will be Kate Bishop's mentor and we already know how dangerous is to be a mentor.

[down]It was a joke, serious sir.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:46:35 AM

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#110699: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:45:12 AM

[up]You are aware tropes are merely a series of multiple occurrences and not a rule, right? Not every mentor (if he or she is not supposed to be the protagonist) has to die.

Do you have anything solid to base this fear on?

Edit: A not very funny one, sirrah.

Edited by fredhot16 on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:48:17 AM

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#110700: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:46:19 AM

Do you have something more to say about Ant-Man?

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