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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#110601: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:51:24 PM

[up][up][up] He still lost so it did not nake much of a difference.

[up][up] He's working on the sequel. [nja]

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 30th 2019 at 12:53:06 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#110602: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:51:34 PM

He wasn’t really struggling

He looked more confused that someone let a baby onto the battlefield

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#110603: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:51:37 PM

[up][up][up]What new one? Why is there a new one? Did I miss a sequel?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 30th 2019 at 12:51:47 PM

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Confirmed Doomer
#110604: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:52:41 PM

[up] IIRC, Gunn's Suicide Squad is kind of a sequel, kind of a soft reboot.

Edited by TrashJack on Sep 30th 2019 at 3:59:04 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#110605: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:57:54 PM

wild mass guessHulk is actually a celestial that happens to be possessing Bruce Banner

I mean,that would explain being able to go toe to toe with Thanos and wield an Infinity Gauntlet

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#110606: Sep 30th 2019 at 12:59:55 PM

[up]It also explains how he looks completely different from his origin story!

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#110607: Sep 30th 2019 at 1:13:29 PM

Off-topic, I know, but: Is anyone else worried that having to wait so far in the future to begin on Guardians 3 could cause problems down the road? Actors' schedules, changes in their personal life, etc. could make it difficult to impossible to get this movie made. People might even have forgotten about the Guardians by then and become more interested in other characters

The guys who took Gunn down (however temporarily) may have succeeded in a way

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#110608: Sep 30th 2019 at 1:48:33 PM

I have finally watched... Avengers: Age of Ultron!

Summary: Nice job breaking it, Tony!

Stan Lee cameo: A drunk man who claims that Thor tells silly scary stories and is later kicked out. As himself.

Observations:

  1. Ultron's cool. I like him because of how he plays with the heroes like puppets in his strings (fitting enough, Pinocchio is referenced).
  2. Did Thor say something like "Don't start a civil war when I'm gone"? I must have missed that line.
  3. D'awww, Clint has a family!
  4. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch have some weird accents. Also, I didn't think this Quicksilver is that wimpy. Also, his death sucks. But I understood. Also, I think the twins were cool enough.
  5. Thor has a vision. Foreshadowing, perhaps? Anyway, he leaves because he has to understand it.
  6. JARVIS is reborn... as The Vision!
  7. Hmmm... the scientists at The Stinger of Captain America: The Winter Soldier were working for HYDRA after all! Oh, and here's
  8. Ulysses Klaw (here, Klaue)! One of the few times in film you won't see Andy Serkis sentenced to perform in a mo-cap suit. Speaking of Klaue, he loses an arm. Speaking of Serkis, his company, The Imaginarium, contributed a bit.
  9. This film broke Joss Whedon down. I feel sorry for all the Executive Meddling I've heard he faced here.
  10. We have four new Avengers at the end: Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch and the Vision!
  11. Wait a second, this film costed $350 million to be made?
  12. Another sky beam?
  13. Why the Avengers fight each other again? Ohhh, right. They are manipulated. Again.
  14. Fury's back. But not for long. He'll be absent anyway.
  15. Hulkbuster armor was here.
  16. If the Vision is worthy, then Steve is (after all, he 8s virtous in spirit and was nice enough to refuse lifting Thor's hammer. So, he's pretending. Until...).
  17. Is it just me or everybody has a field day with quipping?
  18. Am I wrong or Steve and Natasha have some Ship Tease between them?
  19. So, Tony created Ultron? Or just transplanted him in his lab?

The Stinger: "Fine. I'll do it myself".

9/10!note 

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#110609: Sep 30th 2019 at 1:53:30 PM

Nice to see you enjoyed it. IMO the last well and true dud after that is Doctor Strange, though even that has its share of acclaim. Everything else from Ant-Man to Far From Home is at least decent for me.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#110610: Sep 30th 2019 at 1:56:44 PM

BTW: I'm sorry I keep harping on topics that aren't being discussed at the moment. That's my autistic brain at work

Feel free to tell me to knock it off if I get annoying

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#110611: Sep 30th 2019 at 1:58:53 PM

Its fine,your not breaking the rules

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#110612: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:04:43 PM

Doctor Strange is gorgeous and insane, so it has that going for it.

The legend has returned.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#110613: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:13:51 PM

Also has one of the best and most creative climaxes of any MCU film, in my opinion.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#110614: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:17:51 PM

IMO, there hasn't been a single dud in the MCU so far.

Even the worst reviewed ones I found to be quite enjoyable. But maybe I'm just easy to entertain

Edited by MrHellboy on Sep 30th 2019 at 4:18:08 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#110615: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:19:40 PM

It’s just rather dull for the most part.

Didn’t use magic well enough.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 30th 2019 at 2:19:53 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#110616: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:20:06 PM

Even the worst MCU films are still good popcorn flicks. I've willingly watched Iron Man 2 more than once.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#110617: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:27:02 PM

Even at their worst, the MCU movies are just a bit dull but still competent enough as opposed to outright BAD. The closest we've got to a real stinker is probably Thor 2 and even that had redeeming features and remains watchable (though I certainly wouldn't seek it out.)

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#110618: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:27:26 PM

The only MCU film I flat out dislike is Iron Man 3. The second worst is probably Thor 2, which is merely a popcorn movie.

Captain America 1 might be the third or fourth worst, though I can't entirely recall why. I suppose the WWII setting doesn't work for some reason? I don't know.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#110619: Sep 30th 2019 at 2:48:40 PM

I loved two thirds of TFA but found the third act extremely forgettable and also lacking in strong character moments until the very conclusion.

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 30th 2019 at 5:48:50 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#110620: Sep 30th 2019 at 3:00:41 PM

I'd hesitate to call any of the MCU films bad. There are ones that have frustrating elements or don't come together entirely, but there hasn't been one where I would refuse to watch it again or anything like that.

For a series that's run for over a decade and 20+ films, it is a goddamn miracle that they've kept a mostly consistent track record with their films.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#110621: Sep 30th 2019 at 3:25:47 PM

? it is a goddamn miracle that they've kept a mostly consistent track record with their films.

Its sheer god damn luck audience liked their formula and kept buying tickets so they could slowly break loose and do something like Infinity War

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#110622: Sep 30th 2019 at 3:29:13 PM

They haven't gotten to a Last Jedi yet. Captain Marvel cut it close with how mixed reactions are, but no MCU film has split the fanbase as much as Episode 8

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#110623: Sep 30th 2019 at 4:36:09 PM

They haven't gotten to a Last Jedi yet.
You mean an awesome film that's awesome?

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#110624: Sep 30th 2019 at 4:36:47 PM

I'd say Captain Marvel is a lot like Last Jedi. They both have enthusiastic Hatedoms that insist on trying to convince you that the film was really a total bomb hated by everyone despite the movie making over a billion dollars.

Hell, Rey outperformed Carol, even.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#110625: Sep 30th 2019 at 4:36:50 PM

We've already gotten several of those.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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