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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
He doesn't need to be physically stronger to win fights. Captain America trashed Spider-Man during the airport fight in Civil War despite the fact that Spider-Man can deadlift a concrete building.
Not everything's about power levels.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.But the difference between an Iron Man villain and a Peak Human is much greater than that between Spiderman and a super soldier.
Also Spiderman did not know how to fight, a weakness that the Mandarin does not possess.
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Skill is important in a fight, but a character giving fight other character, who is thousands of times stronger, just because he is more skilled is bad writing. (Example: Karate kid vs. Superman, Captain America vs Thanos and Roshi vs Jiren)
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Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 30th 2019 at 10:35:03 AM
Captain America and Bucky Barnes, two characters that have absolutely no business throwing down in the Iron Man/Thor/Hulk weight class, were able to take down Iron Man through clever application of teamwork, skill, and the convenient involvement of close confines limiting his mobility.
An underdog fighter winning a battle against a superior foe isn't bad writing. It's just writing. It's how the protagonist/antagonist dynamic almost always works in every piece of fictional writing ever made. A story where the hero is just the most powerful dude around and the villain couldn't hope to match him is a story with no tension. The job of a writer is to find a way for the protagonist to win against what seems to be insurmountable odds.
This is not a Versus Debate.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 30th 2019 at 11:31:15 AM
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You've heard of this, correct?
In all honesty, Cap has fought dozens of people throughout the movies he had absolutely no business fighting. Most blatant example off course was during Infinity War and Endgame, one punch from Thanos should have turned him into red paste.
It's Rule of Cool and Popularity Power at play, just like it is in the comics constantly.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 30th 2019 at 8:17:41 PM
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We have established the existence of people who taught themselves to make portals and laser whips just by working really hard to do it.
So that's not actually unreasonable.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 30th 2019 at 12:49:10 PM
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Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Sep 30th 2019 at 12:08:00 PM
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Why yes, it is.
If a character is explicitly shown training and/or getting an upgrade and then being consistently stronger, there is an in-universe reason for it.
If a character gets smacked around by a villains minion in one scene, but takes on the big man himself in the next scene without any explanation, just because "It's cool." it's simply for plot convenience.
The distinction is good and bad writing, basically.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 30th 2019 at 9:32:41 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianOne scene: Struggling against Corvus Glaive or a single Outrider.
Other scene: Throwing it down with Thanos.
Just on top off my head.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 30th 2019 at 9:43:13 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianSo Guardians 3 won't start filming until James Gunn is completely finished filming and editing Suicide Squad, which means we won't be seeing it until sometime in 2022:
Isn't this common knowledge? Why the negative clickbait headline?
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.He still made him struggle closing his hand.
And like I said, when Thanos can wreck up the Hulk and Thor in what, 4-5 punches, Cap logically shouldn't even survive a single one.
But lets move on.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 30th 2019 at 9:49:51 PM
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The new Suicide Squad movie. Gunn got the directing job for that before Marvel re-hired him.

If they are going to make Shang a superhuman, at least give a valid reason beyond that "he train a lot".
It would be strange if a human just training becomes more physically stronger than a Super Soldier, Spiderman or even Iron Man.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 30th 2019 at 10:14:27 AM