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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Yeah, Kamala works better as a mentor/mentee relationship. Rogue...wouldn't work in that way. And there was never an indication that Mystique was a bad parent.
In fact, I would love it if we saw a nice normal home life with Rogue and her two parents, Mystique and Destiny. And then Rogue discovers that her parents do shady, black ops Brotherhood stuff when not at home.
The part where she sent Rogue to kill people isn’t an indication of bad parenting?
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There was a brief time in the comics when Tony started to take on a mentor role for Peter. That's where that whole "Iron Spider" costume came from. Then Civil War happened.
As for Mystique's parenting...well, her own character page's Abusive Parents entry sums it up:
She's a terrible parent.
Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2019 at 12:20:33 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedApparently there were originally plans for Destiny and Mystique to be the biological parents of either Rogue or Nightcrawler, the latter being the father, using her powers to give herself the, ahem, necessary equipment.
Jim Shooter dropped the hammer on this as hard as he could. Some people still want it recanonized.
That is a filthy lie and you know it, Rob.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.A mentor figure, yeah. A father figure, no. I've read the Iron Spider comics. They're nothing like Homecoming's depiction of Tony and Peter's relationship.
Which is kind of my point. The MCU takes liberties if it brings them the story they want to tell.
To keep this from derailing though, just to clarify my initial post was in reference to an earlier idea I posted here about how a Captain Marvel sequel could potentially incorporate Rogue and Mystique as villains (the short of it, emphasize Rogue - who would be The Dragon to Mystique - as a foil to Carol, going through similar situations with people who don't care about her marginalizing her self-esteem in order to control her power, resulting in a Heel–Face Turn and team up as Carol encourages her to break free).
I legit wasn't expecting it to explode into a "that can never happen!" discussion.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 27th 2019 at 9:30:54 AM
I'm almost certain the MCU's going to make Mystique a more villainous character, if only to get away from Fox's portrayal in the later X-Men movies. Maybe she'll maintain some redeeming qualities, but I don't think she'll be a completely sympathetic character when she's reintroduced.
P.S.: My knowledge of the X-Men is limited, so I may be 100% wrong.

I'd like to see Ultimate Marvel done right, as in they're all dicks but not to the gross extent of the comics.
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