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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#109851: Sep 18th 2019 at 10:50:39 PM

Foxsilver kicked Apocalypse's butt in superspeed for about 30 seconds until Apocalypse unleashed his power of "f*** you I'm Apocalypse".

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#109852: Sep 18th 2019 at 10:51:40 PM

MCU Quicksilver was one of the biggest character wastes ever.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#109853: Sep 18th 2019 at 11:24:59 PM

The MCU has a problem with wasting minor characters. I'm still mad about Kurse (and speaking of which, MCU Skurge was a waste too), we might have lost Dr. Minn-Erva (one of Carol's major enemies) to a cool but minor skirmish unless they pull Never Found the Body, and if you're fan of Molten Man or Sandman (or Hydro-Man, I guess) that's too bad, because they're just fake monsters.

The early MCU was just as bad. I'm sure fans of Doc Samson were happy that he's just some random asshole in this universe.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 18th 2019 at 11:26:18 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109854: Sep 18th 2019 at 11:30:31 PM

Nobody likes Comics Quicksilver anyway, he's an asshole. Hey, remember when Quicksilver was depowered during M-Day, got his powers back via Terrigen mists, and then led other mutants to do that, only to get them all killed? And then he became a villain for a little bit before Secret Invasion, after which he claimed all the bad things he did were actually done by a Skrull? Remember that?

Fuck Quicksilver.

Also, Stephanie Beatriz would love to play She-Hulk. I can see it.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 18th 2019 at 11:33:32 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109855: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:30:39 AM

Just ask Ike Perlmutter.

I can't believe I'm doing this, but in fairness to Perlmutter, he actually did do a lot of good back in the 90's, and his handling of the company kept Marvel from going the way of the dodo.

He epitomizes that Dark Knight quote.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#109856: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:14:16 AM

RE: Quicksilver: Heh, that reminds me of a rumor about Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness wanting to bring back the Ancient One and Quicksilver back.

Assuming that does happen, would we get MCU-silver or Fox-silver to start weaving in those X-Men?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#109857: Sep 19th 2019 at 6:34:44 AM

@alliterator I'm not particularly fond of Piotr or Wanda tbh (both comics and movies).

Fox Quicksilver is an exception.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#109858: Sep 19th 2019 at 6:37:46 AM

I would prefer they bought back Fox Quicksilver.

Cue Euthrymics.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#109859: Sep 19th 2019 at 6:40:27 AM

I had to see it for myself,wheres Wolverine when you need him

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#109860: Sep 19th 2019 at 6:49:51 AM

He’s somewhere out in the woods with the stupid Weapon X helmet.

The legend has returned.
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#109861: Sep 19th 2019 at 6:55:59 AM

Specifically this somewhere.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#109864: Sep 19th 2019 at 9:27:40 AM

That Is bad, funny as hell but bad

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109865: Sep 19th 2019 at 9:41:47 AM

Ooooh I got an idea.

I'd like to see a scene where Logan jokingly flirts with Jean Grey only for Jean to respond "Logan you are a dear friend to me but no offense, the idea of laying with you & touching your body makes me want to hurl & avoid eating for a year"

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#109866: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:01:38 AM

I'd drop the love triangle all together.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109867: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:05:58 AM

Something I noticed,Bishop in the comics was sent back in time to stop Apocalypse,yet in the Fox film itself he's nowhere to be found.Part of me hopes when reboot the Xmen they take the opportunity to justice to the Apocalypse storyline

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109868: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:11:58 AM

Well, they had Bishop in X-Men: Days of Future Past as part of the X-Men fighting the Sentinels in the future. But he didn't really have much to do.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109869: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:27:04 AM

Something I noticed,Bishop in the comics was sent back in time to stop Apocalypse
He was not sent back in time to stop Apocalypse. He went back in time because he (and his fellow XSE officers) were chasing a criminal called Trevor Fitzroy. While back in time and stuck in the past, he joined the X-Men and eventually remembered the fact that the X-Men had all been betrayed and killed by a traitor, which was eventually revealed to be the Professor X side of Onslaught.

The only connection he has to Apocalypse is that during the Age of Apocalypse, Bishop was the only person who keep his memories since he had come from an alternate future, so he had Ripple-Effect-Proof Memory.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 19th 2019 at 10:27:51 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109870: Sep 19th 2019 at 10:28:41 AM

I'm thinking of the cartoon aren't I?With the Xmen fighting the terminator (basically)

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#109871: Sep 19th 2019 at 11:09:26 AM

Of course, with all the time travel nonsense done, I am surprised they can tell who is who.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109872: Sep 19th 2019 at 11:51:55 AM

I get Cable and Bishops mixed up all the damn time

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#109873: Sep 19th 2019 at 1:00:21 PM

On a side note, I'd like to see a commercial for Disney + where She-Hulk says "If you dont subscribe to Disney +, I'll come to your house and rip up all your Deadpool comics", just as a cute homage to the 80s She-Hulk book (and yes, I'm aware this series will be somewhat more serious than that book).

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109874: Sep 19th 2019 at 1:03:15 PM

Then cut to Deadpool saying "Not really,cos i know you nerds dont buy comics when they're on the internet for free!

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#109875: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:24:54 PM

Super speed is one of those powers that's very hard to write in an ensemble setting, so I can see why if they had to choose someone to die, it was Quicksilver. Even in the Fox X-Men movies you can see the writers and directors straining to try and find a reason why he doesn't just solve every problem himself before anyone else has a chance to do anything. (Dark Phoenix having the most egregious instance of this.)

Edited by comicwriter on Sep 19th 2019 at 3:51:06 AM


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