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Even without Ultron, 616 Hank still had multiple nervous breakdowns and the incident where he built a killer robot for Engineered Heroics and slapped Janet when she tried to stop him.
Disgusted, but not surprisedFor best villain outside of the obvious post-Homecoming stuff, I'll second Obadiah Stane. There's been a lot of villains who wanted to spite Tony, but Stane did it before it was cool.
For the Netflix shows, Kilgrave and Mariah Stokes, easy. To be fair, they don't have much in the way of competition.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I gotta give it up for Hive. At a point when the character of Grant Ward had long ceased to be interesting or menacing and simply become a contractually-obligated nuisance, Hive gave Brett Dalton a chance to remind us all of his acting chops. Dalton took the character "Inhuman space god" and filled it with some fantastic dread and sophistication.
Despite the dismal showing of season 3's first half, it would never really hit the same high as it found in season 3.5 again.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.As much as I love both Ward AND Hive, even I have to say that that's not true.
The high point of AoS was Season 4 (minus Ghost Rider) and AIDA!
Best female MCU villain by far and one of the best in general.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianOh, no one with a functioning brain, and plenty without, would question his qcting chops, the real interrogation mark is if he can pull off the phisically the role demands.
I mean, Wesley Snipes is a martial artist who legend says had to slow down his kicks so the camera pick them up on film (and yes, that is possible, though whether or not the man could pull this shit off is another 500), and far as I know Mr Ali doesn't have the same background.
Yes, stunt doubles help a lot, but anyone who ever watched martial arts movies, John Wick or for that matter the knife fighting scene in Winter Soldier could tell you, action scenes can be made to look far better when the director doesn't have to rely on tricks.
So I missed most of the Ross = hypocrite = who cares? argument, but in this case, his hypocrisy has a direct relationship to his argument because he uses himself as part of his argument. "If I misplaced a couple of 30 megaton nukes... you can bet there'd be consequences."
... he did that. He misplaced The Hulk and Abomination. After making them both. And the consequences were... being promoted to Secretary of State.
It's not ad hominem to attack someone when he goes "take me, for example. I'm..." You're attacking him, sure, but that's because he's using himself as his own argument.
Which is why the scene is so baffling. Like... don't do that, unless you want to completely undercut your own point (both in and out of universe). It's just a decision I cannot comprehend.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.He doesn't but now that you say it, he definitely should. I want to see Shang-Chi fighting Kung Fu Vampires.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Well, he didn't misplace Abomination. Abomination wasn't supposed to exist in the first place. Blonsky went rogue, killed some of Ross's men IIRC, and then forced Sterns to do that to him.
But he totally misplaced the Hulk. What makes that particularly baffling is the fact that the "megaton nuke" he misplaced in the past is, itself, one of the two "megaton nukes" he's criticizing Cap about. It takes some serious gall for Ross to be like, "You done f*cked up on keeping tabs on the Hulk."
But. That being said.
Like I said before, this is not a debate. And I think that's an important bit of context for understanding Ross's motives here. Ross is not here as one intellectual engaging another intellectual in healthy conversation about a proposed idea. A decision has already been made and he's both the messenger and the person placed in charge of it. Ross is not asking Cap to deliberate points as a peer, he's reprimanding Cap as a commanding officer to his subordinate.
At the end of Incredible Hulk, we see Ross recognize that he done f*cked up with Blonsky. He agrees to let Banner go deal with the problem, and then doesn't try to stop Banner from leaving. Remarkably, he actually seems to have held to that and passed the "do something about the Hulk" football to S.H.I.E.L.D., given that this is the first we've heard of him since then.
So he's reprimanding Cap for something he, himself, has screwed up in the past. But we've already seen Ross face up to that screw-up. So it feels "hypocritical" to me in the same sense as a person ruining their life with crystal meth and then, years later, getting mad at their kids for doing drugs. Ross may not know much about how to properly handle the Hulk, but is the expert in what not to do.
He's still an obnoxious General Ripper archetype and he still 100% should have been court-martialed, dishonorably discharged, and possibly faced prison time for that stunt he pulled at Knox. Ross should never even have been under consideration for Secretary of State, let alone being the liaison between the United Nations and the Avengers.
But I don't agree with the logic that if you've f*cked up once, you are never allowed to criticize people for making the same mistake.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 18th 2019 at 8:12:07 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Honestly, I think sending in a military squadron to a college campus is completely justified if you know that there's a giant green rage monster on the loose on that campus. I never understood why that was one of the big criticisms of Incredible Hulk. If we're coming at the situation from the perspective of "the Hulk is an incredibly dangerous monster who should not be anywhere near innocent civilians" than sending armed forces into a college campus to apprehend him is totally fine.
Seriously, please explain why I should be in any way angry at Ross for sending in troops to stop a monster from potentially going on a rampage? Now obviously, the Hulk isn't really that much of a threat, but from the perspective of people who think he is, that seems like a 100% good and justified action to take.
Because of the already cited laws and also because using military weapons on campus is a bad idea and instigating a fight with the Hulk on a college campus is a REALLY bad idea
The minimum smart thing to do would be to try to lure him to a safe place to start shooting ordinance or just keep a watch on him and move in if he hulks
Rolling up with tanks and soldiers was the worst option short of just dropping a bomb on the campus
Edited by Bocaj on Sep 18th 2019 at 11:25:15 AM
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I still rather like Obadiah Stane the Iron Monger.
Disgusted, but not surprised