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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109551: Sep 14th 2019 at 11:58:58 AM

I’d just want to be writer-level famous.

Like Grant Morrison or even a little Mark Miller without being a prick that writes terrible edgelord comics.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109552: Sep 14th 2019 at 12:12:41 PM

Online and film fame rarely overlaps. There was an interesting discussion with Freddie Wong and Corridor Digital talking about this between web film and theatrical film. While Rocket Jump and Corridor Digital might be some of the biggest names in online VFX shorts and have done successful series with Hulu and Crunchyroll, that basically amounts to nothing to film studios.

I recall this was part of the reason why the Halo movie failed to get off the ground in 2005, as Microsoft was used to being a heavyweight in the computer and video games arena, but film studios just saw some tech company barging in with absurd demands.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 14th 2019 at 12:18:29 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#109553: Sep 14th 2019 at 12:16:09 PM

[up]And a decade later, a Showtime series gets greenlit. Honestly, that just goes to show how change works.

[up][up]See, that you’re famous for doing something, and get paid for it accordingly, that I would be cool with. Not to mention writers are easier to be since you just blend into the background, unlike say, actors.

Edited by Beatman1 on Sep 14th 2019 at 3:17:41 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#109554: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:01:01 PM

Marvel won big at 45th Annual Saturn Awards!

  • Best Comic-to-Film Motion Picture: Avengers: Endgame (Infinity War was also nominated in this category, but I guess Endgame won out for not being nearly as depressing. And also that climax.)
  • Best Actor: Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man in Avengers: Endgame
  • Best Supporting Actor: Josh Brolin as Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War
  • Best Supporting Actress: Zendaya as MJ in Spider-Man: Far From Home
  • Best Performance by a Younger Actor: Tom Holland as Spider-Man in Spider-Man: Far From Home
  • Best Production Design: Charles Wood for Avengers: Endgame
  • Best Editing: Jeffrey Ford and Matthew Schmidt for Avengers: Endgame
  • Best Make-Up: John Blake and Brian Sipe for Avengers: Endgame
  • Best Special Effects: Avengers: Endgame
  • Best Streaming Superhero Series: Daredevil, season 3

In total, that's 6 wins for Endgame, 2 for Far From Home and 1 for Infinity War and Daredevil.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 14th 2019 at 4:01:19 AM

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#109555: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:14:31 PM

Who saves the day? The Super Hero Squad! Season 1 intro:

Season 2 intro:
Happy 10th anniversary, Super Hero Squad!

That's a show that I immensely enjoyed! Very funny, but also filled with enjoyable Mythology Gags and Shout-Outs, that I liked!

BONUS: Live-action version:

"Scooby Dooby Doo!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109556: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:15:38 PM

So it dawns on me that there's an easy way to solve the how will Jane become Thor issue:

Thunderstrike bitches!

It's basically identical to Mjolnir, and they even went in that direction in completely inferior Avengers Assemble animated series. I actually saw the episode where she became Thor too, but I didn't know they went in the Thunderstrike direction.

Kinda makes you wonder why they didn't do that in the comics, but I suppose they just had their own ideas and made her Valkyrie instead.

So there you go. And Etiri is still alive too (or unsnapped, though since he's the only one of his kind it probably skipped him) so we got someone to make it.

One Strip! One Strip!
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#109557: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:17:12 PM

[up][up] Who would have thought the lyrics to Super Hero Squad's intro would have predicted Thanos' fate in Endgame.

"Even Thanos ends in tears, when Iron Man joins the fight".

Edited by windleopard on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:25:54 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109558: Sep 14th 2019 at 1:26:29 PM

@slimcoder: If I ever become a published writer I'll go the Reclusive Artist route and never show my face around.

@Jo Lu Ro: But you can have all of that without having to turn yourself into a public personality.

Well, except "everyone wants to talk to you" part, perhaps, but I personally consider that a double-edged sword.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#109559: Sep 14th 2019 at 2:28:26 PM

[up][up][up] While they could go that route, I think the best way would just be to reforge Mjolnir itself.

In all likelihood the fragments are in the possession of New Asgard. However Thor likely lacked the motivation to find a way to have the hammer reforged given that spent the 5 years of the snap playing Fortnight and had Stormbreaker anyways.

Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#109560: Sep 14th 2019 at 3:33:25 PM

Curious question: Is Marvel planning on using Whizzer in any upcoming projects? Or did they already, and i'm just not aware?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109561: Sep 14th 2019 at 3:34:48 PM

He was in Jessica Jones and he died.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#109562: Sep 14th 2019 at 3:35:44 PM

[up][up]He showed up in Jessica Jones for a single episode As a mentally ill man who was experimented on and dies.

Edit - [nja]

Edited by Beatman1 on Sep 14th 2019 at 6:36:04 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#109563: Sep 14th 2019 at 3:58:55 PM

Deadline: Apparently Endgame won't be the last time we'll see Tony. Allegedly, that honor will go to Black Widow next year. (ICYMI, Black Widow is set after Civil War, but before Infinity War.)

Robert Downey Jr.’s swan song performance as Tony Stark, aka Iron Man, in Endgame earned him the best actor in a film award. (Downey will be seen in the role of Stark one more time, however, in the Marvel prequel Black Widow in May 2020.)

"Last one, swear to God."

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 14th 2019 at 7:00:17 AM

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#109564: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:22:00 PM

Of course, Endgame will still be the last in in-universe time.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#109565: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:26:22 PM

[up][up].

Robert: that it, i can finally retired from marvel.

Marvel: im sorry Robert, i cant Let you do that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#109566: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:36:16 PM

Alright...listen, Marvel. I love RDJ's Tony Stark. But I am also finished with RDJ's Tony Stark. His story is done, I'm largely content with it, just give it a rest.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109567: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:39:40 PM

Marvel:OK,but how about Hologram Tony Stark? He's like Tony but a Hologram!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109568: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:39:58 PM

Hailee Steinfeld, a.k.a. the soon to be Kate Bishop, was nominated by the Saturn Awards for Bumblebee... as Best Supporting Actress, in a movie starring her.

The same thing happened when she was nominated for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress of True Grit even though, again, she's the protagonist.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109569: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:41:36 PM

The Academy is incompetent and worthless, news at 11.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#109570: Sep 14th 2019 at 4:45:21 PM

I mean Hopkins got best actor for a movie had no more than 15 minutes in, so they’be been playing loose with what’s supporting and what isn’t for a while now.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#109571: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:55:50 PM

One thing I've learned is that sometimes this is on the part of the nomination campaign itself, as they assess where the individual has a better chance to win rather than what is most accurate to the size of their role.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109572: Sep 14th 2019 at 5:57:50 PM

So I guess the Academy took Bumblebee being the main character too far. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#109573: Sep 14th 2019 at 6:07:26 PM

Apparently the Tony stuff will be a unused scene from Civil War, so RDJ himself is not returning.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109574: Sep 14th 2019 at 6:11:19 PM

wild mass guessIn a surprise twist, Taskmaster turns out to be a former car valet for Tony Stark who got mad cuz he didn't tip or something.wild mass guess

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109575: Sep 14th 2019 at 6:14:22 PM

Once in the comics it turned out Janet Van Wasp’s chauffeur was a supervillain

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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