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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109476: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:04:45 AM

They mean the "Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#109477: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:07:31 AM

I’m actually tearing up now, I completely forgot about it being at a elementary school.

Like, like, like...

What the fuck?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 13th 2019 at 10:08:10 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#109479: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:12:13 AM

[up]This is why I call these deniers scum of the earth.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:12:31 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#109480: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:14:13 AM

I doubt that Marvel/Disney would never consider Rhousey at all but then again Scarlett Johansson is still getting a Black Widow movie despite defending Woody Allen and whitewashing in Hollywood.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109481: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:15:36 AM

Defending him is a little more recent and she's a high profile star,she's practically immune to get black listed

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#109482: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:19:55 AM

[up][up]Yeah, I'm not exactly a fan of Johansson either. While I don't like how it went down, I'm not too sorry about her not showing up in future MCU movies.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:21:03 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109483: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:25:11 AM

Shit seriously?

I was enjoying Scarlett as Widow.

Why? Why do things I like get ruined by their actors or voice actors being assholes?

Real Life wrecks things again.sad

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109484: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:35:10 AM

That’s why real people will be replaced by fictional people soon. Hatsune Miku will become the next leading actress and also president

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#109485: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:36:22 AM

This is why I think it's generally a bad idea to get too emotionally invested in anything you have no direct control over.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:37:19 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#109486: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:36:55 AM

Even beforehand I didn't think she was a particularly compelling Widow acting-wise. Most of my affection for the character comes from her depiction in Winter Soldier, which came down to a mix of a decently performance of some really stellar writing and Johannsen's chemistry with Chris Evans which can't be maintained now that Cap has been retired from the MCU.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109488: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:51:17 AM

This is why I think it's generally a bad idea to get too emotionally invested in anything you have no direct control over.
Not everything is problematic, but a lot of things have some problematic aspects. You can simply choose to accept those aspects with some criticism and...I don't know, go the Tumblr route and declare the entire work to be tainted and NOBODY SHOULD EVER WATCH IT EVER blah blah blah.

Fuck it, I still love Buffy the Vampire Slayer after all these years and I don't care.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#109489: Sep 13th 2019 at 10:58:46 AM

Did not know those things about Rousey or ScarJo. WHY are so many people in showbiz complete assholes? It really seems to be a disproportionate segment.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#109490: Sep 13th 2019 at 11:09:58 AM

Johansson being a shitty self-centered person has been known for quite a while now. I knew at least as far back as the Ghost in the Shell debacle.

I also knew about the ronda Rousey thing bc of her performance in mortal Kombat ticking people off. I think she's also made some transphobic comments in the past.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Sep 13th 2019 at 2:10:54 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109491: Sep 13th 2019 at 11:12:35 AM

What frustrates me about the Rousey thing is that she's also taking on the nickname (and actual leather jacket) of a Wrestling Legend (who had the jacket given to her by his family with his permission before his death) so she's not just doing things that look badly on her: she's tainting his name.

The poor acting was something that could have been forgiven (though it likely would not have been), but the fact that she's done this other shit is not cool.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109492: Sep 13th 2019 at 11:13:43 AM

[up]x4 I save that kind of attitude for terminal cases of asshatery.

And by "terminal", I mean "criminal", as in Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, the works.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 13th 2019 at 3:14:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#109493: Sep 13th 2019 at 11:14:00 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]It's a matter of degree. I'm talking about shit like Rurouni Kenshin's writer turning out to be a pedophile and Ren and Stimpy's creator turning out to be a sexual predator.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2019 at 3:04:28 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#109494: Sep 13th 2019 at 11:59:28 AM

With Scarlett Johansson Marvel has the excuse that they did actually sign her before her really problematic traits came to the surface, way back in 2010, and by the time Johansson really started to self-destruct her image with Ghost in the Shell and open defenses of Woody Allen they could argue Johansson was too associated with Black Widow to replace.

Ronda Rousey is worse because they'd be hiring her after she already exploded her entire image in a multitude of ways (losing badly at UFC, terrible performance in Mortal Kombat, sandy hook denying, e.t.c).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109495: Sep 13th 2019 at 12:01:35 PM

Man, Terrence Howard was an Alaska-level bullet dodging, huh?

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#109496: Sep 13th 2019 at 12:07:08 PM

Scarlett only has a controversial opinion, she is not a criminal or anything like that.

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Apparently Xavier and Magneto will be black in the mcu.

I have no problems with Xavier, but changing Magneto's ethnicity is not correct.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 13th 2019 at 12:08:25 PM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#109499: Sep 13th 2019 at 12:11:47 PM

So, why wasn't Carol part of the time heist?

Hell, if she'd been there, she could have done the snap. While we don't know what affect using the gauntlet would have had on her, I'd guess she has a much better chance of tanking it than Bruce or Thanos.

I mean, I know the Doylist reason that she probably could have prevented a lot of the issues that came up at the end, but there doesn't seem to be a doylist reason why she was left out..

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