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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#109426: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:42:45 AM

> and Alucard the Floating Vampire Jesus?

I understood that reference. evil grin

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#109427: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:14:29 AM

and

she sparkles

Well, not while she was a vampire. She'd lost her mutant powers unfortunately.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109428: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:20:38 AM

Thankfully, the newer Generation X comic both restored her powers and restored her non-vampire status. And, bizarrely, you can thank Quentin Quire and the last bit of Phoenix Force he had for that.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#109429: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:22:29 AM

Yeah. Shame about that second part. Missed opportunity to have Vampire Jubes sparkling all over her enemies' faces. She really was an underrated gem.

Which, to be fair, so is Jubilee in general, really.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:23:23 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109430: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:30:32 AM

I refuse to ever thank Quentin Quire for anything

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109431: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:36:29 AM

Who's Quentin Quire and ehy should I hate him?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#109432: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:36:35 AM

Quentin Quire is a character I hope to never see in the MCU.

Disgusted, but not surprised
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#109433: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:38:16 AM

Yes, who the heck is he?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109434: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:39:16 AM

He be a douchebag.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#109435: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:40:08 AM

There be many douchebags in Marvel, what sets him apart?

The legend has returned.
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#109436: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:40:15 AM

[up][up]You get no points for that explanation, you get one last chance.

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:44:11 AM

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109437: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:41:10 AM

The entire civilian population of the MU is composed of douchebags.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109438: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:46:07 AM

He has a terrible haircut for one.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109439: Sep 12th 2019 at 9:46:19 AM

Quentin Quire (also known as Kid Omega) was a character first introduced in Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. He's a genius and super powerful telepath, but also was a bit anti-social...until he started taking the mutant drug Kick and became even more anti-social, eventually leading a gang of students and starting a riot at the school (the storyline was literally called "Riot at Xavier's"). And he did all this in order to impress Sophie, one of the Stepford Cuckoos. (Of course, this isn't entirely his fault — Kick, it turns out, was the aerosol form of a being called Sublime who hated mutants and subtly influenced anyone who took it.) And even after Sophie died, she still rejected him.

Then he died, came back, got the Phoenix Force for a hot second, and left. He's been in an out of Xavier's school ever since, as a kind of "wild card." He's basically a kid with waaaay too much power, low self-esteem masked with a huge degree of cynicism, and a need to be hip and edgy.

Yes, that's right: he's a mutant hipster.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:48:05 AM

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#109440: Sep 12th 2019 at 10:01:22 AM

The most interesting thing about Quentin Quire is that he has no reason for being.

He was meant to die at the first arc and somebody decided he lived, for some reason, even though nobody seems to like him.

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#109441: Sep 12th 2019 at 10:15:00 AM

Also Gwenpool briefly dated him in a desperate bid to increase her story relevance.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109442: Sep 12th 2019 at 10:39:46 AM

And he was baffled when he found out her powers were basically "being Genre Savvy and thinking she's in a comic book." (Her ability to leave the comic book for the white space didn't work since she wasn't in her own solo book anymore.)

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#109444: Sep 12th 2019 at 10:52:46 AM

It's both. Gwenpool has fourth-wall breaking Medium Awareness. However, her main advantage is one of the few legitimately accurate uses of the Genre Savvy trope on our wiki: she's read a lot of Marvel Comics, understands things like the narrative structure and how a superhero story works, and uses that knowledge to her advantage.

She's not just really clever as so many Genre Savvy misuses go. The idea of Gwenpool is that she's an actual comic book nerd from our universe who got pulled into the comics somehow, and she uses her familiarity with the brand to make the Marvel Comics formula work for her.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 12th 2019 at 11:54:39 AM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109445: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:12:05 AM

Her only issue is that she doesn't read Deadpool comics. They are a bit too "lol memes" for her.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109446: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:14:38 AM

So she's only read the Daniel Way run?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109447: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:44:44 AM

It’s canon that Gwenpool has read Spider-Man: Reign, as of her latest solo. D:

Also she can access the Marvel Youtube channel, which raises a lot of questions as to the implications of her being able to contact her old world.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109448: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:48:28 AM

To sum it up uncharitably and also belatedly, Quentin Quire is basically an incel school shooter who was rebranded after his death and return as a quirky funny cynic.

With basically no connecting dots between those two things.

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:50:15 PM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#109449: Sep 12th 2019 at 1:26:00 PM

So Gwenpool is an isekai protagonist.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109450: Sep 12th 2019 at 1:29:33 PM

Production Weekly has all the movies and shows currently in production:

DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
HAWKEYE
THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER (w/t TAG TEAM)
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MARVEL’S HELSTROM (w/t OMENS)
WANDAVISION (w/t BIG RED)

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