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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109251: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:22:19 PM

somewhere someone is genuinely freaking out about that

How is an AI going to torture someone anyway,they an't got arms..

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#109252: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:23:26 PM

[up]It’ll screw with your bank account and your lights. Mess with your plumbing.

This is how we get people moving to deserts away from computers.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#109253: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:36:08 PM

What Tuckerscreator is referring to is known as Roko's Basilisk. It's a...rather stupid hypothesis...that when humanity achieves the singularity, the Super-AI will create copies of the minds of all people who didn't contribute to its creation as punishment for not creating them. It will then torture these copies in some form of computer simulation. It argues that these copies are as "real" as the person they're copies of-essentially a sort of mind upload to virtual hell.

This hypothesis is easily disproven in several ways. In particular: An ASI cannot just create copies of a person's brain, copies of a person's brain are not the same person necessarily, and this behavior makes no sense.

Leviticus 19:34
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109254: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:40:17 PM

Huh, now I want to see a version of Age of Ultron where Ultron's wants to become this super AI and thinks that anyone who doesn't contribute to help it deserves to suffer and die.

LessWrong members will lose their shit watching this version of the film. evil grin

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#109255: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:42:31 PM

But we already have an example of that, with the Kree Supreme Intelligence. We only need a movie that explore Kree society.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#109256: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:50:44 PM

Random question, has Ghost Rider shown up yet?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109257: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:51:18 PM

nope

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#109258: Sep 10th 2019 at 2:57:12 PM

Is it cause he's a skeleton that burns people's souls

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109259: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:02:37 PM

yes hes too OP

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#109260: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:04:32 PM

also a skeleton so not good for a certain market

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#109261: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:04:33 PM

He appeared in Agents.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109262: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:05:57 PM

there are no agents of hydra

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#109263: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:14:10 PM

Idle thought.

In The Avengers (2012), Captain America said Phase 2 would be that S.H.I.E.L.D. uses the Tesseract to make Hydra weapons.

But he was wrong. Phase 2 was actually that Hydra uses Stark tech to make S.H.I.E.L.D. weapons. And then later, Phase 2 was that Stark uses Hydra tech to make Thanos weapons.

Steve was so close, but his proper nouns were way off!

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 10th 2019 at 4:15:18 AM

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#109264: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:17:38 PM

No, Phase 2 was Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Age of Ultron, and Ant-Man.

Steve was way off in his predictions.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109265: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:25:36 PM

Random question, has Ghost Rider shown up yet?

nope

Stop acting like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't exist! Lord knows the films do that enough on their own.

In fact, they announced a Ghost Rider show for Hulu earlier this year. Now, I highly doubt it'll crossover with the Disney Plus shows or the movies, but still.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#109266: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:27:04 PM

there is no shield

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109267: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:34:38 PM

Ultron does that villain thing where he hijacks every channel to deliver an ultimatum to the world

But he just tells people to support his Kickstarter

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109268: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:35:29 PM

What's he selling?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#109269: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:36:06 PM

Ultron becomes a copyright bot who wants to destroy humanity because they're violating Youtube's Terms of Service.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109270: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:40:49 PM

Random question, has Ghost Rider shown up yet?
Yes and he was awesome. To be clear, though, it was the Robbie Reyes version where he drives a Dodge Charger (called the Hell Charger) rather than a motorcycle. He's also getting his own Hulu show.

there is no shield
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 10th 2019 at 3:41:16 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#109271: Sep 10th 2019 at 3:41:51 PM

If you back at the $1 level you'll be put on a list to kill last, after everyone who didn't back at all.

At $5 Ultron or an Ultron drone will personally give you a highfive before he kills you.

At $50 you get a "I gave Ultron money and all I got was this absolutely rad t-shirt" t-shirt.

If you back at the $500 level, you get a mini-Ultron drone who will drink all of your pepsi and call you mean names.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#109273: Sep 10th 2019 at 4:47:54 PM

[up][up]I feel like there should be an option to be put at the front of the list as an alpha tester. Feedback from early adopters is important if Ultron wants to get this project off the ground.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Sep 10th 2019 at 7:48:12 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible

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