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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#109076: Sep 9th 2019 at 10:33:02 AM

Cinematographer Zoe White (of The Handmaid's Tale and Westworld fame) is onboard for The Falcon and Winter Soldier.

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#109077: Sep 9th 2019 at 12:18:48 PM

They've got some really talented people working on this series.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#109079: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:09:52 PM

[up] Can anyone else see it? I can see it.

If this works out, she'll be the fourth cast member from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (Spider-Gwen) to have a role in the MCU.

For those of you keeping up at home, the other three are:

  • Brian Tyree Henry -> Jefferson Morales -> Phastos
  • Marhershala Ali -> Aaron Davis -> Blade
  • Kathryn Hahn -> Doc Ock -> WandaVision's nosy neighbor

And yes, I'm positive it's all by coincidence.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 9th 2019 at 4:27:39 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109080: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:21:05 PM

Spider-Kate, Spider-Kate, does whatever a Spider-Kate does...

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#109081: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:21:48 PM

If this means we are another step closer to Nicolas Cage appearing in the MCU I am ALL UP FOR THAT.

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#109082: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:28:02 PM

She looks like a glamour model.

...

So. Yeah. I can totally see it. Kate Bishop's a wealthy heiress who basically bailed on her rich family to go be Hawkeye instead, so she should have a bit of that dynamic in her look.

If I had to put together casting directions for Kate, it'd be something along the lines of "Teenage Lara Croft, slumming it."

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#109083: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:38:17 PM

Kate's an heiress by birth, but a disaster rat by lifestyle.

But Steinfield can do that too. She was steely and ruthless in True Grit.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#109084: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:39:12 PM

Should I watch that movie?

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#109085: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:41:31 PM

True Grit? It's the Coen Brothers, of course. Just be prepared for something more "bleak Coens" than "black comedy Coens".

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 9th 2019 at 1:42:45 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#109087: Sep 9th 2019 at 1:43:28 PM

[up][up][up] Yes.

Also, if anyone's seen Bumblebee, she was great in that and looked very Kate Bishop-esque. Here's a trailer.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 9th 2019 at 1:43:56 AM

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#109088: Sep 9th 2019 at 2:00:06 PM

I've watched Thor: The Dark World!

Summary: A Dark Elf wants to destroy all the Nine Realms with a black, smokey magical thing called the Aether. Guess who stops him?

Stan Lee cameo: As himself, but as a mental patient.

Observations:

  1. Marvel Studios revises its Vanity Plate for the first time in the MCU.
  2. Dedicated to Don Payne.
  3. Malekith is kinda boring. He wants to destroy the Nine Realms just because he wants to return the worlds to an eternal darkness. And that's it. Also, he's rarely, or if not, never facially and vocally expressive.
  4. Is it just me, or Thor and Jane kinda hook up pretty fast? And I mean too quickly.
  5. Frigga dies. Oh, man!
  6. Loki dies... yeah, I bought it for a while.
  7. Loki as Captain America was hilarious!
  8. Brian Tyler scored the two MCU films of 2013. So, he's the first composer to score more than one MCU film.
  9. Frankly, I didn't think the Earth cast was really annoying, or that the film was too focused on Earth. Well, around an hour of the movie was in Asgard, the rest on Earth. Or I am wrong.
  10. The Dark World? More like Wasteland World (now that I think of it, the title is misleading, a bit)!
  11. From what I've heard, there was Executive Meddling: "No time for establishing Malekith! More Loki!". To be fair, I didn't think Loki was omnipresent. Or I am wrong.
  12. Paramount's logo never appears again from here onward.
  13. Also, Fandral was Terrence Howard'd, too.note 
  14. So, the Aether is an Infinity Stone. Specifically, the Reality Stone.

The Stinger: Twofer!

  1. Two of the Warriors Three go to the Collector to hand him the Aether to handle it safe and hidden. Looks like the Collector has plans... (mid-credits)
  2. Jane, Erik, Darcy and Ian are all bored until Thor comes back. Then Thor and Jane share a kiss.

7/10!note 

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#109089: Sep 9th 2019 at 2:07:19 PM

For Kate Bishop I would like someone younger, in case in the future they confirm the Young Avengers series.

That is, if one day they confirm the young avengers, at least it will be released in 2,024.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 9th 2019 at 2:14:59 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#109090: Sep 9th 2019 at 2:21:57 PM

Funny thing was that Loki was intended to die in the film at first. Apparently, test audiences didn't buy it and thought Loki was faking his death, so the bit where he replaced Odin was added in reshoots.

I remember actually thinking they did kill him off for real when I first watched the film, because I mistakenly highlighted a spoiler on the site. I didn't read the entire thing, so I thought this really was Loki's final appearance. We got some good stuff with Loki later on, but I wonder if this would've been a fitting end to him right here. He ultimately does sacrifice himself for real in Infinity War, and there were people who still thought he was faking it. Guess that's why they had Thanos explicitly say "no more resurrections this time".

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#109091: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:12:28 PM

"I don't see the issue with the helicarrier showing up in Age of Ultron. The ones destroyed in Winter Soldier were explicitly new helicarriers. The original helicarrier from The Avengers was presumably still parked somewhere, and if anyone would know the combination to get in, it'd be Fury.

"

Problem is Shield was destroy by HYDRA and pull underground, he just showing up with a new helicarrier and SHIELD out of nowhere feel weird, like if the climax of the movie didnt matter at all.

Also, the foreshowing of that is very bad, "Im going to show something" or a dialogue of that efect, it could mean every, hell Fury could have call Carol to deal with Ultron(which it bring a funny imagine actually), it also have other issue like Cap saying he is going to save those people except....he dosent do that, make him look like a tool, also it feel Wheedon write itself into a corner with that, it dosent help that after that Ultron threat level descend right into zero and the rest of the movie is just them kicking him around until he die.

"The Dark World suffered from too much emphasis on Earth and on the Thor-Jane romance. "

Seen Jane having dates in the movie look stright out romantic comedy which it show you why porman wasnt that thrill with the movie to begin with.

Malekith also suffer for look stright of a star trek movie, I half expect him to fight picard during the movie.

And for Thor 4....meh, im not that intersting ether.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109092: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:17:54 PM

[up] Well of course you aren't. A major part about Thor 4 is gonna be Valkyrie finding love.

The "former slaver" continues to go unpunished & is finding the perfect queen for her Asgardian kingdom. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 9th 2019 at 3:22:23 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#109093: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:25:42 PM

Yeah they're not going to revisit her past as a slaver,which makes me wonder what they were thinking making her one to begin with

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#109094: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:26:37 PM

My guess, easiest way to get her into the interactions with Thor while he's on the inside.

Instead of some rando being responsible for Thor's capture, just have it be Val to quickly introduce her.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 9th 2019 at 3:27:17 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
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#109095: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:33:13 PM

TDW is one of the few of these movies I haven't seen! Maybe if I catch it on TV some time when no one minds.

Also, just letting you know Andrei, IMO you're in for a treat with Winter Soldier and Guardians back-to-back. Easily the best of the MCU for me until 2017.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#109096: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:36:24 PM

Maybe calling her a slaver is wholly incorrect in this case and bringing it up is being used as an excuse the bash the character?

Just something I realised [up] [up]

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 9th 2019 at 10:36:59 AM

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#109097: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:37:02 PM

Let's keep in mind that Thor's first action scene was him busting into another nation and committing war crimes. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 9th 2019 at 3:37:13 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#109098: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:37:52 PM

frost giants ,man are they ugly,and Loki is supposed to be one

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#109099: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:37:56 PM

There's also Loki who's....... well that needs no explanation.

Just to be clear I only referred to Val as a "slaver" cause unknowing has brought it up at several points.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 9th 2019 at 3:38:59 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#109100: Sep 9th 2019 at 3:45:01 PM

Because, thor raganrok can be call Thor: karma houdini, in how Odin get away with is shit, so does Valkyre and to a extent Loki who bruce seen to forgive even when he used it in his plan by in avengers.

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