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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#108952: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:01:06 PM

[up][up][up][up]It still applies.

Anyway, top three moments?

Snap.

Cap with Mjolnir.

Hulk smashing Loki.

Special mentions: "I am Iron Man", "I am Iron Man" Redux, Immigrant Song, Vulture figuring out Spider-Man's identity, Cliff scene in Black Panther, Captain Marvel wrecking Thanos' ship, Wanda wrecking Thanos' shit, "We Are Groot".

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 7th 2019 at 8:10:28 AM

This song needs more love.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108954: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:06:32 PM

I hold on to the belief that one of Ultron's drones survived and uploaded themselves onto the internet

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108955: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:08:35 PM

The final dialogue between Ultron and Vision really is very beautiful.

If only Whedon could focus more on that and less on making everyone spit out rapid fire snark.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108956: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:10:37 PM

Ultron's final moments were indeed beautiful. If only he was that awesome for the rest of the movie.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 7th 2019 at 5:19:58 AM

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#108957: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:17:16 PM

Sometimes I held out hope that we might seen Ultron again in Endgame, maybe even only as a haunting memory, kinda like Koba in War for the Planet of the Apes, to remind the heroes of their failure. Or see some hints in Infinity War as to how he was built. Did Ebony Maw make his Mind Stone AI?

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 7th 2019 at 5:18:22 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108958: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:19:42 PM

My top three moments are:

A two-way tie between the times Yon'du uses his arrow in both movies,

"I am inevitable." "I am Iron Man.",

And the whole "Puny god." thing.

The legend has returned.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#108959: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:25:52 PM

Immigrant Song!

Tie between the good ol' Avengers tracking shot or the arrival at Wakanda.

And of course, Avengers assemble.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108960: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:27:06 PM

Fine:

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 7th 2019 at 6:28:25 AM

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108961: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:32:01 PM

I hope that "What If" is not just a cheap excuse to kill characters.

That is a legit risk. Some writers of the comic have a tendency to take the concept away from "What could have been?" and more towards Fridge Horror "GOOD THING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN."

"What if there was pimento on Wolverine and DareDevil's bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwiches?" Logan stabs out Murdock's throat, followed by 22 pages of Thanos graphically murdering the Earth for some reason.

Not all of them do this, but it does happen from time to time.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 7th 2019 at 6:32:25 AM

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#108962: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:43:13 PM

To be fair Matt deserves it for daring to taint a good sandwich with pimento.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#108963: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:45:29 PM

There are way too many "What Ifs" and What-If style stories like Bullet Points where the moral of the story is "everyone you love would die and everything would be worse for everyone, so shut the fuck up and enjoy the stories that already exist or we'll kill them."

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#108964: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:47:31 PM

Remember someone here mentioning that the Civil War What If? was better than the actual events.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108965: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:49:35 PM

Heck, the MCU Civil War itself is a "What if Civil War was good?" thing.

The legend has returned.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#108966: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:49:52 PM

I say they can have one episode where things go catastrophically bad due to a seemingly trivial change. But overall there should be a balance between things being better off, worse off, or just different.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108967: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:51:47 PM

[up][up]In fairness, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 did that first.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 7th 2019 at 9:51:59 AM

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#108968: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:51:56 PM

Actually, now that I think about it, every episode should end in Thanos wiping out the universe 'cause Dr. Strange said there was only one reality where he's defeated. tongue

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 7th 2019 at 6:52:07 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108969: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:52:04 PM

There's also that Avengers vs X-Men What If that ended in Jean grey suddenly coming to life & marrying Wolverine as a God couple.

....... God I fucking hate that relationship.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108970: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:56:23 PM

Sorry, that was in reference to "Zombies make everything better" thing.

There has never ever been a bad production in the history of entertainment dealing with zombies. Ever.

But more seriously, if the question is why would Marvel adapt this, it's because the original series was very popular and well regarded when it first came out. Not sure how the endless sequels were received. But the original story was big.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108971: Sep 7th 2019 at 5:56:37 PM

For me it would be:

*Cap chasing the Winter Soldier.

*Cap elevator fight scene.

*Cap and Winter Soldier first battle.

*Bucky stealing the bike in the chasing scene in Civil War.

*Bucky and Sam look of aproval to Cap in Civil War.

*Ant-Man running alongside his ants in Ant-Man. Don't know why, just love that shot.

*Thor trying "The sun is getting really low..." with the Hulk evil grin.

*Thor Ragnarok whole rainbow bridge battle to the tune of Inmigrant Song.

*Cap and Bucky co-co-co-combo!! against Ironman.

*Doctor Strange finally showing why he's called the sorcerer Supreme in his battle againts Thanos.

But, number one for me is Cap lifting Mjolnir and battle againt Thanos. Being a Cap fan, I lost it that moment.

Edited by eligram on Sep 7th 2019 at 8:57:49 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#108972: Sep 7th 2019 at 6:02:30 PM

Ah, how could I forget: the whole Knowhere scene, Thor and Rocket's talk in the pod, Thor's arrival in Wakanda, the battles on Titan.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#108973: Sep 7th 2019 at 6:09:52 PM

Honestly there's so many good moments, it's hard to narrow down.

If I had to choose off the top of my head, Cap summoning Mjolnir in Endgame would be a big highlight for me. I remember everyone was kind of bummed after Mjolnir was destroyed in Ragnarok, because they thought we'd never that scene in the MCU. When Thor borrowed Mjolnir from 2013, it didn't even register to me what they were setting up. It was only during the climax when Thor was pinned down by Thanos did I finally realize what they were doing and I begged that they do it right. And then they did.

It was definitely my biggest geek-out moment while watching Endgame.

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#108974: Sep 7th 2019 at 6:41:18 PM

As for What-If, I'm kind of disappointed that Marvel Zombies is relegated to that, I was half-way hoping to see a full-on zombie apocalypse in the main MCU movies. Have the movie end with one of the super-geniuses super-geniusing up a cure, or something, but I was curious to see what makes Marvel worthy to own the Copywrite on the word "Zombie".

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#108975: Sep 7th 2019 at 7:14:08 PM

RE: Honestly, the biggest impact TIH had was on a One-Shot short they made where they explained why Tony was talking to Ross at the end (namely, Coulson sent him to discourage Ross from having Blonsky join the Avengers). I think the original idea was that Avengers were going to unite to stop the Hulk and Tony was asking for Ross's help, but that changed over time.

I never saw that One-Shot, and it actually clears something up that always bothered me about that stinger. It shows Tony Stark seemingly being on board with the concept of Avenger Initiative, or at least had talked things over with Nick Fury about joining.

But, then comes Iron Man 2, and Tony seems to have changed his tune regarding Avengers.... That always confused me.

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