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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#108876: Sep 6th 2019 at 2:59:32 PM

I wonder how George Lucas or Steven Spielberg would direct a marvel movie

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#108877: Sep 6th 2019 at 3:30:13 PM

I always felt that Captain America: The First Avenger is probably the closest we'll get to a Spielberg directed MCU film. Joe Johnston has often been called the Poor Man's Substitute of Spielberg and combined with how many WWII movies he's made, it's easy to see him taking a Captain America movie in an other timeline.

And yes, I'm aware he's a bit uncomfortable portraying Nazis as cartoonish supervillains ever since he did Schindler's List. That's why I said Johnston's the closest we got to Spielberg.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108878: Sep 6th 2019 at 3:50:33 PM

A Lucas-written Marvel movie (but directed by someone else) could be a interesting thought, but since buying star wars Disney has treated Lucas almost like a persona non grata in the SW franchise, so I doubt he's getting any leeway in the MCU either (or even if he'd want to, as he doesn't seem all that fond of the Disney global empire).

But if we're disregarding all that, I could see a Lucas MCU film playing to his strengths of Genre Throwback and not putting romance front and center. Perhaps something like Nova Corps could suit him.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#108879: Sep 6th 2019 at 3:53:33 PM

I recall Lucas directed a little bit of Solo. He's not completely exiled. Merely 99% exiled. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 6th 2019 at 3:55:00 AM

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#108880: Sep 6th 2019 at 3:56:47 PM

if he's mentions Midi-chlorian they throw things at him

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#108881: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:01:19 PM

I've heard Ant-Man described as an 80s Spielberg-style film, though to me it more resembles the Disney Live Action of the 70s/early 80s, only on a MUCH higher budget (remove the Marvel references, and you've got a plot that wouldnt be out of the question for Disney at the time).

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#108882: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:02:09 PM

I recall Lucas directed a little bit of Solo. He's not completely exiled. Merely 99% exiled. tongue

Solo?! Disney brought him back to give him a small bit job of filmmaking in a movie, and that movie became the first Star Wars film ever to utterly bomb?!

Jesus Christ. Did George Lucas accidentally take a piss on a sacred burial ground or something? I used to think he was bad at writing, but now I'm starting to think he's just cursed.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 6th 2019 at 5:02:18 AM

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#108883: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:03:33 PM

Blaming Lucus is unfair,that film was plagued with problems from the start,he was but a small part of it

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108884: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:03:39 PM

[up][up] It was actually because Solo was being directed by Ron Howard, who is a good friend of Lucas. Howard invited Lucas to the set and then got Lucas to direct some scenes.

It's not a bad movie, either. Just...it wasn't released at the right time. And I doubt Disney wanted it to bomb, either.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 6th 2019 at 4:03:45 AM

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#108885: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:17:02 PM

Remember that Ron Howard starred in Lucas's second movie. The student reunites with the master.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 6th 2019 at 4:17:15 AM

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#108886: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:17:29 PM

Solo?! Disney brought him back to give him a small bit job of filmmaking in a movie, and that movie became the first Star Wars film ever to utterly bomb?!

Misleading context though: Lucas literally just went on a set trip in Solo and gave Howard a tip on one moment of one, fairly innocuous scene and then left. Disney just allowed it to stay.

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#108887: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:22:00 PM

the film should have been focused on Chewie instead

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#108889: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:28:42 PM

oh come on

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#108890: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:41:13 PM

Blaming Lucus is unfair,that film was plagued with problems from the start,he was but a small part of it

I'm not blaming him for it. I'm marveling at his shitty fortune. Everything he touches seems to go cock-eyed.

Honestly, despite not being fond of his prequels or special editions, I actually feel bad for Lucas. Imagine creating a ground-breaking piece of cinematic history, the likes of which had never been seen before and that is still considered one of the greatest classics of film history decades later. Beloved by billions of fans across the globe.

All of whom agree that you, personally, are worse than Hitler and deserve to be horsewhipped until you repent for ever trying to write anything in the first place. They practically worship your creation (some literally worship it), but thoroughly despise you.

I've never blamed Lucas for selling Star Wars to Disney. Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't wash his hands of it sooner. It can't be easy, being hated by all of your fans.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 6th 2019 at 5:42:50 AM

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#108891: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:47:38 PM

He did do excellently powering Star Wars: The Clone Wars, probably the most universally beloved piece of the franchise, neck-in-neck with the OT. Tellingly Disney has never been able to replicate this success with any other show (to the point they decided to bring back TCW).

Lucas serving a similar role for some MCU animation would actually be ideal.

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#108892: Sep 6th 2019 at 4:57:37 PM

I'm not blaming him for it. I'm marveling at his shitty fortune. Everything he touches seems to go cock-eyed.

Honestly, despite not being fond of his prequels or special editions, I actually feel bad for Lucas. Imagine creating a ground-breaking piece of cinematic history, the likes of which had never been seen before and that is still considered one of the greatest classics of film history decades later. Beloved by billions of fans across the globe.

All of whom agree that you, personally, are worse than Hitler and deserve to be horsewhipped until you repent for ever trying to write anything in the first place. They practically worship your creation (some literally worship it), but thoroughly despise you.

I've never blamed Lucas for selling Star Wars to Disney. Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't wash his hands of it sooner. It can't be easy, being hated by all of your fans.

Yeah, I used to joke about how funny it was that all Star Wars fans believed George Lucas was the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars, but I no longer find the joke funny...since it seems to be true.

Of course, now they say different after Disney took their own shot at things, but honestly this is one of the many things that have disillusioned me with both sides of the entire Star Wars franchise: the more insensitive and rabid fans and current creators both kinda have me feeling like I no longer want anything to do with this.

Lucas should get involved with the MCU and make everyone of them (me included for making those jokes) eat their damn words. Just one big middle finger to everyone who's had issue with how he does things by making the most awesome thing ever.

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#108893: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:03:05 PM

I've heard it described that Lucas was very fond of TCW so he came through with a lot of funding for the project, which made a big difference and is part of why it's such a good show.

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#108894: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:07:54 PM

I knew TCW had high funding.

No CG show has that much visual diversity in stuff like character models & settings starting out.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 6th 2019 at 5:08:26 AM

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#108895: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:20:59 PM

That’s what GOOD cgi looks like??

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#108896: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:23:56 PM

Compared to most of the studios (Polygon Pictures) works, extremely so.

Their anime work generally looks pretty crappy...... at least the human models do.

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#108897: Sep 6th 2019 at 6:54:33 PM

I was gonna say something potentially flaming, but for once I shall take the high ground. Heh.

Instead, talking about classic filmmakers, what do you guys think a Scorcese superhero movie would look like?

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#108898: Sep 6th 2019 at 7:16:31 PM

Wayyy nicer than many assume it would be.

Contrary to what a lot of folks picture of Scorsese, he absolutely can direct family-friendly and fantastical, as shown by Hugo.

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#108899: Sep 6th 2019 at 7:35:56 PM

The CG in Clone Wars is some serious top-A stuff.

Just the fight with Darth Maul & Savage vs Sidious alone is enough to rival even the best animated 2D fights.

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#108900: Sep 6th 2019 at 7:44:10 PM

I feel like a Scorsese style would be perfect for Daredevil or (if we're going for villains) Kingpin.

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