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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108726: Sep 4th 2019 at 10:19:26 AM

[up]He fought Saskue at the end of Naruto: Shippuden.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#108727: Sep 4th 2019 at 10:20:21 AM

God, I want a Hulk movie so bad. Damn you, Universal.

She-Hulk is timed perfectly, though. I've wanted her to get something for years, but admittedly MCU Bruce hadn't been in the place before that he would ever come forward and give her a blood transfusion, nor that anyone would - say - think to do it even without him.

Now it's still a really bad idea, but it's not implausible.

Hopefully the show will be used to finally give Jennifer and Bruce a mythos in the MCU.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:21:01 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108728: Sep 4th 2019 at 10:43:03 AM

God, I want a Hulk movie so bad. Damn you, Universal.
I want an Immortal Hulk series. I know it's probably way too expensive and way too dark for Disney+, but dammit, it's such a good book and would make such a good show.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108729: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:20:57 AM

Fine, I'm convinced, I'll give Immortal Hulk a chance.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108730: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:30:29 AM

Do it or I’ll tell the Hulk the on you.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108731: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:33:15 AM

I dont ever want a hulk movie ever

face it,he works better as a supporting character,when the focus is on him its easier for the mindless destruction to take over as its a crowd pleaser

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108732: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:34:28 AM

I can't believe it took until recently to make a Hulk horror thing.

The legend has returned.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108733: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:38:23 AM

Hawkeye caused a starvation crisis in Tokyo.

What are you talking about? He left plenty of meat laying around for them.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108734: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:40:39 AM

yuck cannibalism jokes

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108735: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:41:54 AM

[up]x2 I think the point is that the worst of the catastrophe already passed, and now the Yakuza is taking advantage of the chaos to establish itself as the top dog in Japan.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 4th 2019 at 3:42:03 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108736: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:50:31 AM

[up][up]I guess not everybody finds them tasteful.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#108738: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:54:57 AM

Good luck, brave pioneer

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108739: Sep 4th 2019 at 11:55:43 AM

Hey, it's a fun movie.

Rough around the edges, but fun.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#108740: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:00:27 PM

I did enjoy IM 2 on my rewatch. It was a mess, but a fun mess!

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108741: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:02:16 PM

"Fun" and "a mess" are about the best way to describe it. It's the popcorniest flick of the MCU.

Does have one of my all-time favorite (non-action) scenes, though. Y'all know which one I'm talking about.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Sep 4th 2019 at 3:03:59 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108742: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:02:48 PM

Iron man 3 as well

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#108743: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:04:08 PM

Iron Man 2 is better than TIH but still kinda sucks, which thankfully isn't really a distinction I'd give to very many MCU works. And even then there's still some fun to be had.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108744: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:05:15 PM

I like Iron Man 3, but it's less a mess and more an anime filler.

It's just so utterly irrelevant to the greater narrative, but a fun enough distraction.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108745: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:07:26 PM

They were adapting the demon in the class bottle and in the end only his alcoholism and Post Traumatic stress disorder was included

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108746: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:09:29 PM

He's still got PTSD afterwards and his alcoholism is never brought up, so so much for that.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#108747: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:09:34 PM

I wouldn't say utterly irrelevant.

Even though he tries to manage it better after IM 3, Tony's space ptsd drives a lot of his actions.

And even though he tried to manage it better, the seeds of his relationship troubles with Pepper in future movies are here.

And whatever you feel about MCU Spiders-Man, his realization that he's Iron Man with or without the suit drives his scolding of Peter in Homecoming.

A lot of bits come up in various ways.

[up] Him still having it afterward doesn't really make the movie inconsequential since its the movie that brought up that he had space PTSD.

And in fairness, Tony never stops being an alcoholic after Demon in a Bottle. Its why its a character trait of his that he never drinks and also had sympathy for Carol Danvers when she was having her own demon in a bottle problem.

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 4th 2019 at 3:11:47 PM

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#108748: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:10:06 PM

[up][up][up]They could not go full tilt on that on account of RDJ. Though tbh, there is so much in that arc in the comics it would have been hard to squeeze all that much of it into a 2-21/2 hour movie.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Sep 4th 2019 at 3:10:30 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108749: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:13:16 PM

[up][up]I feel like also, the House Party Protocol plants the seeds for what he's set up as of Age of Ultron.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108750: Sep 4th 2019 at 12:14:43 PM

[up]x3 His anxieties still lead him to screw up, his relationship with Pepper has always been rocky because Tony is himself a toxic person, well-intentioned thoygh he may be, and while it is kind of brought up in Homecoming that realization couod've hit him anytime before or afterwards that movie.

As I say, I like Iron Man 3, I just feel it doesn't move anything forward.

And it's not even its fault, really, Age of Ultron just reset all of the progress Tony made as a character in that movie.

Thankfully, Civil War picked that ball and portrayed Tony as someone who constantly self-sabotages his own efforts to improve, but then again the Russos are the masters of MCU continuity, whatever else you say about them.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 4th 2019 at 4:15:47 PM


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