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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Even if he was, the Sokovia Accords weren't just him. Someone else would have just wound up appointed in his place.
I suspect that after half of the planet abruptly ceased to exist due to an alien attack, the world simply didn't have the luxury of chasing the Avengers anymore. During times of real-world crisis, assistance offered even by groups like the Yakuza or Hell's Angels is typically considered welcome. Law, borders, these things become less important during massive human catastrophes.
And the Snap was the biggest catastrophe in human history. So I expect it's probably as simple as "The Avengers pitched in to help out and, even though they're all technically criminals, nobody was going to tell them not to." And then they just kept doing that.
They're probably still in that grace period right now where they're technically criminals but it doesn't seem worth it to actually try to arrest them. Not after Thanos. There's probably some legal scholars out there trying to figure out a way to put them on the books for realsies, while the rest of the world just sort of turns a blind eye for now.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:05:31 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Was the public at the time aware that the Hulk was a human being (and an American citizen)? If the most people believed Hulk was just some monster who fell from outer space, or climbed up from the ocean floor, or got unfrozen from an Ice Age glacier, then sending the military after him would be seen as a completely reasonable response. What's the alternative, leave it up to animal control?
Musing on this further:
Frankly, the Avengers can probably coast on that goodwill for at least a decade or two. Tony in particular is pretty much guaranteed to get deified in the history books. Every bad thing he's ever done will undoubtedly wind up getting whitewashed in the Hollywood version of his life story. "Tony Stark's dad was a cool guy who helped us win WWII. Heroism was in his blood, so when he grew up, he built Iron Man and saved the world from Thanos. The End."
Definitely looking at a Hollywood biopic. Maybe with some controversy 'cause, like, they reimagine Steve as this antagonistic jerk who's constantly trying to hold Tony back from his true calling.
EDIT: "8/10, Tom Cruise's take on the historic figure of Captain America was interesting, but he felt a bit mean-spirited for my taste. However, the casting of Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was inspired."
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:14:35 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.In times of national crisis and human catastrophe, "But those people are criminals!" doesn't really matter anymore. Even when it's a murderous crime syndicate. So why would it matter for the Avengers?
Crime is a peace-time consideration. When people are dying, you take whatever help you can get.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:31:44 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.During WWII the government teamed up with the mob, is something I've heard.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'd like it if Tony demanded that any life story of his was completely honest, without trying to make him look like a super good guy and just let people decide for himself what kinda dude he was.
Tony was hard enough on himself that I can see him doing that.
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Even then I'm pretty sure that once they get to "He helped build a time machine to bring back half of the universe and then used intergalactic magic rocks to literally turn an evil space warlord and his entire army to dust", most people will have forgiven any unsavory traits of his.
It'd be interesting to see how Tony would respond to an overly positive biopic. On the one hand, he's an egomaniac who wants everyone to know that he's the hero. On the other hand, beneath that ego is a self loathing that drives him to act because he feels he must make up for his failures.
So it could go either way with him.
As much as people would worship Tony for his sacrifice, I think Bruce would get the bigger adulation since he was the one who brought everyone back.
I mean yeah, it was a team effort. But Bruce was the one who used the Gauntlet and returned everyone back to life. That has a far more direct impact on people's lives, as everyone would've lost someone to the Snap.
I kinda wonder how Bruce would react to that. He's gone from a publicly-feared monster to perhaps the most celebrated hero in the entire universe. He's always been a humble man, so I'd be curious to see how he deals with that kind of attention.

@Bocaj: My headcanon is a thoroughly pissed Tony Stark publicly blamed Ross and his unwavering support for the Sokovia accords as the primary reason the Avengers were unable to mount an effective defense against Thanos; and would not be all that far off the mark, at least in technical terms. That should have been enough to turn Ross radioactive as far as any military or government position is concerned, and keep he in effective exile during that time period no matter how much influence he once had.
Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Sep 4th 2019 at 11:25:56 AM