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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108501: Aug 31st 2019 at 4:12:12 PM

Doctor Strange is first place for me, because I love horror movies, and the MCU has done horror movie scenes in the past. While those are great, a horror movie set in the MCU would scratch that itch I've been waiting for.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#108502: Aug 31st 2019 at 4:30:02 PM

Considering that the villain of Multiverse of Madness is Nightmare, if the whole movie is like that one illusion scene in Far From Home, it would be a fantastic slam dunk of a horror flick.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108503: Aug 31st 2019 at 5:11:34 PM

NVM

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 31st 2019 at 8:51:37 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108504: Aug 31st 2019 at 5:12:52 PM

Oh, go Super Saiyan already or whatever.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108505: Aug 31st 2019 at 5:13:21 PM

So....do we have any guesses on if Guardians 3 will reveal how Gamora found out the locations of the Soul Stone?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108506: Aug 31st 2019 at 5:13:31 PM

oh no dont taunt him!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#108507: Aug 31st 2019 at 5:21:32 PM

She found a map. Like an idiot, she memorized it. Then she burned it. And then like a different kind of idiot, she told Nebula about it.

Its not something that needs to be covered in a movie probably. The rumors and leaked information about Guardians 3 have it already pretty packed.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108509: Aug 31st 2019 at 6:06:38 PM

Derek Kolstad, writer of the John Wick movies, talks the Falcon & Winter Soldier series.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108510: Aug 31st 2019 at 6:22:34 PM

So A.C. Bradley (or Ashley Bradley), writer for Trollhunters and 3Below, is the writer and showrunner of What If? She's also going to be interviewed by Discussing Film.

Edited by alliterator on Aug 31st 2019 at 6:23:47 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108511: Aug 31st 2019 at 6:42:06 PM

Random What If...? question:

Is it me or are they using the same animating technology from Paperman?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108512: Aug 31st 2019 at 7:13:52 PM

It looks like it. They are doing something called cel shading. It's been done for Star Wars: Resistance and RWBY, too. It probably looks most similar to Iron Man: Armored Adventures.

Also, everything we know so far about the Disney+ shows.

Edited by alliterator on Aug 31st 2019 at 7:14:55 AM

Neveratall Since: Apr, 2016
#108513: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:28:12 PM

Someone might have mentioned this at some point, but as far as Spiderman goes, what if Sony and Marvel work out a deal to share the character? Like, he would appear in both sets of movies, and the sony movies would be treated like an alternate universe to the marvel ones. Maybe they could even say that its still the same guy, just traveling between universes somehow. Would people be okay with that?

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#108514: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:30:46 PM

[up]Everyone in this thread has already agreed to let it go for now. So could you drop this subject?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108515: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:34:04 PM

[up][up] Boy would that confusing though.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 31st 2019 at 9:34:15 AM

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Neveratall Since: Apr, 2016
#108516: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:37:53 PM

[up][up]Well excuse me, but I hadn't been reading the thread lately. This is the first time I came here in weeks. I did go back a couple pages to see if anyone had mentioned it, and I didn't see anything, so I thought I would briefly mention the idea. But I guess that's not allowed.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108517: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:44:16 PM

To be fair, the issue wasn't really people talking about it. The issue was the thread getting clogged with never-ending stream of "updates" that were really just internet scoopers speculating with no real evidence ("Some guy on Twitter says his sources inside Disney say that a deal could possibly be reached, but don't be mad if it isn't!"), as well as a bunch of Tweets taking shots at Sony (while conveniently ignoring Disney's part in all this).

If someone genuinely has a question about the whole thing, I don't think that should be off-limits.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 31st 2019 at 9:45:31 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108518: Aug 31st 2019 at 9:49:41 PM

[up][up]You’re excused. We’ll let you live this time, be sure not to repeat it.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#108519: Aug 31st 2019 at 10:34:55 PM

@neveratall So your options are

A) Sony keep the profits of their own film while Disney keep theirs, in which case Sony can just keep Spider-man for themselves and not let Disney profit from Spider-man at all.

B) Sony keep the profits for their own films while getting the same cut they've been getting from the mcu films, in which case this is the old deal with Sony getting extra freedom, so Disney might as well just keep the old deal and not give Sony anything.

C) Sony keep the profits of their own films and cut the profits for the mcu ones in a way Disney would agree, in which case Sony has to be sure that their films make more money than what they would get from the old deal, which is unlikely and thus they still profit less than the old deal. If they profit more than the old deal, then they cut off Disney completely.

Why would they agree to this?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#108520: Sep 1st 2019 at 2:09:25 AM

So, I haven't followed the whole debacle anymore, but I heared that Spidey really is leaving the MCU now and that Tom wants to continue playing him?

Is this immidiately or will there be another movie to resolve that damn cliffhanger?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108521: Sep 1st 2019 at 2:12:12 AM

We have no idea.

We are just waiting & seeing how the transaction between Sony & Disney will resolve itself.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#108522: Sep 1st 2019 at 8:13:19 AM

What was the better movie/story/hype-fest? The beginning, or the end? The idea that superhero films could merge into one shared film? Or the realization that it actually worked?

More an excuse to just post both trailers side-by-side

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BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#108523: Sep 1st 2019 at 9:39:57 AM

I just read an article about copyright characters, in summary: Marvel and Sony both agree to whcih one get which character in the Spider-man franchise. It make me wonder: Does those lawyers that work on these stuff know much about the comic book? Imagine those lawyer in suits discussion which character belong in which category, discuss character relationship, which issue they first appeal in? Does this character belong to Spider-man franchise or not?

Lawyer 1: Does this character go to Sony or Disney?

lawyer 2: He appeal in this Spider-man issue so i guess he belong to Sony

lawyer 3 : No, he made his first appearance in this volume of X-men, so it belong to Marvel

lawyer 4: No, that volume is non-canon so we have to start from this volume instead

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108524: Sep 1st 2019 at 10:56:28 AM

[up] The original contract that Sony signed in 1999 contained all of the characters they could use. It's pretty much everyone that is "associated" with Spider-Man, but not characters that originated in other comics, i.e. J. Jonah Jameson is owned by Sony, but not Johnny Storm.

There are certain characters, like in the Fox deal, that are associated with Spider-Man and originated in other comics, which means that Marvel can use them with certain caveats. Marvel can use Jessica Drew...as long as they don't call her "Spider Woman."

Edited by alliterator on Sep 1st 2019 at 10:57:42 AM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#108525: Sep 1st 2019 at 11:35:50 AM

[up] Could they use Spider-Woman if they give her a different name, or do they have the rights to her costume and powers as well?


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