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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108401: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:13:58 AM

That wouldn't just be a fight. It would be a campaign.

Thanos has the combined forces of the Chitauri, that weird zombie-dog-person army he hit Wakanda with, the Mind Gem, Nebula and Gamora, the Children of Thanos....

Ego has the combined forces of Yondu's Ravagar squad and Ego the Goddamn Living Planet.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 30th 2019 at 12:15:33 PM

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#108402: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:14:04 AM

[up] My money's on Thanos.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108403: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:14:22 AM

Ego wins.

Thanos is tough, but what Ego does is far beyond what any other character in the MCU has been able to acomplish without the Infinity Stones, barring Dormmammu.

Remember when he first showed up and wiped out an entire fleet like it was nothing?

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 30th 2019 at 3:15:07 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#108404: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:15:22 AM

They were rivals in the comics,in fact in the silver surfer cartoon Thanos trapped him

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 30th 2019 at 6:15:35 PM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#108405: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:19:28 AM

MCU =/= Marvel Comics Universe.

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#108406: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:31:02 AM

MCU also =/= a Versus Debate.

We're not talking about dropping Thanos and Ego into Final Destination. NO ITEMS, NO PREP TIME, NO OUTSIDE HELP, BLOODLUST ACTIVATED, FOX ONLY.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 30th 2019 at 12:33:06 PM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108407: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:42:23 AM

The Guardians were able to kill Ego with a drilling vehicle and a makeshift bomb. Thanos would lose a ton of Chitauri and Outriders but Ego's gonna die.

And if Thanos goes and fetches the Power Stone first (which he was close to getting at the start of GOTG), he could just one-shot the whole planet.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108408: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:57:57 AM

It'd be an interesting thing to see Thanos going on the warpath against Ego with all his armies, doing a sort of mad blitz into the core of Ego with his forces.

The initial problem is how Thanos would figure Ego's weak spot out, but he does have both the Mind Gem and Ebony Maw, who's quite the genius as it so appears (given he's the one who works out the whole time travel business as per the Russos).

Imagine a War sequence of Thanos carpet bombing the surface of Ego from orbit and then sending his Chitauri and Outrider legions in the freshly exploded core before the smoke clears, headed by the Children of Thanos. Each Child leads a battalion of Outriders/Chitauri drilling to the core while a bombardment to the surface continues to distract Ego. Ebony Maw uses his tekelinesis to burrow a hole through Ego's surface with Thanos if he deems it necessary to go himself.

You know, it's possible Thanos could even use the Mind Stone to "shut down" Ego like Mantis did, in which case it's game over.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#108409: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:03:04 PM

Alternatively, Thanos could use the Mind Stone to turn Ego into his slave. I'd imagine that would be incredibly difficult and very much not worth the effort. But if it worked? Yeah, Thanos's army would be a lot more powerful.

Again, we don't know the upper limits of the Mind Stone or if Thanos is the type of person who'd use mind control to gain servants. He might just think killing Ego would be the least risky option.

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#108410: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:16:08 PM

Bear in mind, it wasn’t only a drill and bomb; Ego was also fighting another Celestial.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 30th 2019 at 12:17:13 PM

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#108411: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:20:15 PM

Only toward the tailend of the fight. Guardians were very close to killing Ego with just an old junky laser-drill ship before he even knew what hit him, and then the Sovereign showed up and ruined everything.

But as Stan Lee would say, the winner would ultimately be whichever victory best suits the story the writer is trying to tell. Which... in this hypothetical, would probably still be Thanos.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 30th 2019 at 3:21:14 PM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108412: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:24:22 PM

I think the combined might of the entirety of Thanos's armed forces and a carpet bombing of the planet would more or less equal fighting a Celestial in terms of "distracting Ego".

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108413: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:39:04 PM

And if Thanos goes and fetches the Power Stone first (which he was close to getting at the start of GOTG), he could just one-shot the whole planet.

Huh, imagine if instead of putting the power stone back on the gauntlet after he one punched Cap Marvel, he used the stone to one shot the planet and claim victory. But as every villain, he just has to go with the most dramatic win.

As for what if's? How about what if The Avengers made a power point presentation to Thanos on how his plan not only is bonkers, but wouldn't work.

Edited by eligram on Aug 30th 2019 at 3:39:39 PM

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#108414: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:50:20 PM

As for what if's? How about what if The Avengers made a power point presentation to Thanos on how his plan not only is bonkers, but wouldn't work.

Only if it's presented by WWE's Drew Gulak....unless he's not doing the Power-point presentation joke anymore.

I haven't watched 205 Live in about 2 years( and I hear it's getting cancelled anyway) so I wouldn't know.

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#108415: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:56:33 PM

...I don't think it'd work for an episode but I'd love to see, like, a single still-frame image of that.

Like a montage of all the myriad What If? universes are out there. And one of them just has Thanos sitting on a stool, rubbing his chin in contemplation and staring at some charts and graphs on a Powerpoint slide. T'Challa and Tony Stark are standing there with pointers, mouths agape in explanation.

On the wall, there's a sign that reads, "Malthusian Economics 101".

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 30th 2019 at 1:56:58 PM

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108416: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:57:58 PM

Well guys, I'm not only surprised, but really proud of you (and really ashamed of myself cause I'm the one going for it tongue) that no one proposed a What if... the Avengers went with the Thanus strategy.

...Sorry.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108417: Aug 30th 2019 at 12:59:44 PM

That's because we all know Thanos would clench his buttcheeks immediately and squash Ant-Man in the process.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108418: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:03:25 PM

[up][up][up] I mean, there can be a way to make an episode of it. Like the Avengers convince Thanos to use their Time machine to go to Titan before the catastrophe and have a televised debate with them on wheter his plan would work or not, for a chance to prove those ingrates that he was right.

[up]BUT!!! Would it work if they give gim an vibranioum Ant-Man suit?

I both hate and love how this idea can bring so many questions...

Edited by eligram on Aug 30th 2019 at 4:40:59 AM

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#108419: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:04:11 PM

Nah, we've already seen how that What-If ends:

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#108420: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:32:12 PM

I had almost forgotten that was even a thing.

I really wish I had.

I hate meme culture.

Edited by M84 on Aug 30th 2019 at 4:33:31 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#108421: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:35:03 PM

It could be worse.

The meme could've involved Scott pulling a candiru.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#108422: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:36:55 PM

memes dont have a culture,they're a pathogen without bacteria to form a culture

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#108423: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:40:38 PM

They're more akin to viri than bacteria.

Memes. The DNA of the soul.

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#108424: Aug 30th 2019 at 1:44:51 PM

“Meme” and “memetic” are derived from “gene” and “genetic” for a reason.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#108425: Aug 30th 2019 at 2:13:13 PM

This is definitely what Snake died for

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