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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#108326: Aug 29th 2019 at 2:30:55 PM

Flash Venom is one of my favorite Marvel characters period. I would pay some good money to see him in a videogame or film.

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#108327: Aug 29th 2019 at 2:32:27 PM

I see flash and my immediate thought was "How did Flash from DC comics end up with the Symbiot attached?2

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 29th 2019 at 9:32:50 AM

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108328: Aug 29th 2019 at 2:38:32 PM

It probably says something that Flash's relationship with the symbiote was portrayed as platonic and healing for the both of them compared to the destructive quasi-romance Peter and Eddie have with it.

Edited by lycropath on Aug 29th 2019 at 2:43:22 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108329: Aug 29th 2019 at 2:53:35 PM

Agent Venom was much better than it had any right to be.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108330: Aug 29th 2019 at 2:59:21 PM

Yep, Agent Venom was pretty damn great. Unfortunately, for Amazing Spider-Man #800, they had to go and kill Flash. But, I mean, it was the Red Goblin — Carnage attached to Norman Osborn — that did it, so it was a pretty epic death.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108331: Aug 29th 2019 at 3:41:24 PM

Yeah. And as I understand it, Carnage and Norman were pretty in synch.

I think Norman got it at first to replace his Goblin powers, but then convinced the symbiote release some kind of tech blockage on his Goblin powers, giving him both....

....which as you can imagine, is not a good situation.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108332: Aug 29th 2019 at 3:54:18 PM

Not going to post links, but Spider-Man: Far From Home's Twitter page tweeted a promo for the Extended Cut.

Pretty much all the replies are either saying "no, I don't think I will" to demanding Spider-Man stay in the MCU.

And also, beep. (No clue what it means and all the replies are demanding answers...)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 29th 2019 at 6:55:49 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108333: Aug 29th 2019 at 7:31:54 PM

Maybe it'd be best to stop linking to every random scooper/rumor monger and vague tweet that could mean nothing until there's some actual concrete movement. At this point it's all speculation getting people's hopes up.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#108334: Aug 29th 2019 at 7:34:32 PM

That’s the funny thing about the 3 great loves of Venom’s life.

It’s relationship with Eddie is ultimately toxic for both sides especially as shown in the Donny Cages Venom run, & while it idealizes Peter the latter has made very much clear he wants nothing to do with the former.

Which goes into Flash as he actually wants Venom around & they don’t bring out the worst in each other.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 29th 2019 at 7:38:12 AM

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#108336: Aug 29th 2019 at 9:03:08 PM

Wow! It's nothing!

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#108337: Aug 29th 2019 at 9:06:09 PM

[up][up]Wow! What a broken link!

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 29th 2019 at 9:08:04 AM

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108338: Aug 29th 2019 at 9:06:51 PM

Gotta be faster on the draw, folks!

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108339: Aug 29th 2019 at 9:34:31 PM

Maybe it'd be best to stop linking to every random scooper/rumor monger and vague tweet that could mean nothing until there's some actual concrete movement. At this point it's all speculation getting people's hopes up.

Eh, fair enough.

Actually, remember when I suggested to vote with your wallets and not watch Far From Home's extended cut in theaters?

I wasn't the only one to have that plan...

CONTEXT: You know how AMC Theaters are doing a thing where you reserve your seats when you buy tickets? Nearly all the seats are vacant. If this doesn't make Sony take the hint, I don't know what will!

Oh, and the Extended Cut's extra footage? It's literally the scenes in the "Peter's to-do list" bonus short reintegrated into the movie itself.

In other words: NO ONE'S MISSING ANYTHING.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 29th 2019 at 12:35:44 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108340: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:43:44 PM

It's a rerelease of a two month old movie. I have a feeling it wasn't gonna be seeing huge numbers regardless of the controversy. And, more to the point, the whole theater chart thing just calls to mind the screenshots that totally proved nobody was going to see Captain Marvel.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 29th 2019 at 10:45:06 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108341: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:44:57 PM

I’m gonna be honest, I am like really over this whole Spider-Man biz.

I’d rather leave it in the dark until we get something actually substantial.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#108342: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:47:55 PM

We've got Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Blade, Kate Bishop, Th4or, etc, on the way... yeah, really not feeling Parker absence.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 29th 2019 at 10:48:05 AM

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#108343: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:48:13 PM

Yeah, I want Spidey back in the MCU as much as everyone else, but I feel like we should stop bringing the conversation back to it over every little thing. Maybe when we get actual news about the deal, then sure.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#108344: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:50:01 PM

[up][up][up]Way ahead of you there.

We shouldn't be latching on to every single blog or trash article or tweet or Reddit post about this.

Disgusted, but not surprised
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108345: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:15:45 PM

Not trying to be rude but when I said “suspicious much” earlier, I sort of meant your words. Your tone sounds as though it goes beyond reasonable skepticism.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108346: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:53:13 PM

Yeah. It's gotten to be a bit much.

We've got Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Blade, Kate Bishop, Th4or, etc, on the way...

Heh. I've just noticed how many of the new properties have some ties to the Avengers. I'm very interested to see whatever the cast of the eventual new Avengers flick looks like. There are a lot of characters right now that'd fit.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#108347: Aug 30th 2019 at 8:04:58 AM

Part of me wonders if Sony expected some big Spiderman announcement at D23 and figured Disney would agree to *any* deal so they wouldn't have to alter the presentations. Only to see a list of new project where none (cept the theme park attraction) mentioned Spiderman.

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#108348: Aug 30th 2019 at 8:12:14 AM

It's a rerelease of a two month old movie. I have a feeling it wasn't gonna be seeing huge numbers regardless of the controversy. And, more to the point, the whole theater chart thing just calls to mind the screenshots that totally proved nobody was going to see Captain Marvel.

This. "We're making a powerful moral stand by resisting the urge to waste $17 on a movie we've already seen. Probably 2-3 times, judging by its box office figures."

Even the Avengers: Endgame rerelease only added an extra $22 mil to its sales figures, and that's literally the highest-grossing movie ever made.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 30th 2019 at 9:13:24 AM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108349: Aug 30th 2019 at 8:21:23 AM

In fairness, I wouldn't think it far-fetched that Sony, being the masters of logic they are, are probably expecting this Extended Cut to make $100-200 million at least. tongue

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108350: Aug 30th 2019 at 8:29:16 AM

[up]O.K, dude. You should take a break. Your drum is going to need a new skin at this rate.

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 30th 2019 at 8:32:30 AM

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