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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#108276: Aug 29th 2019 at 9:53:37 AM

A Spider-Man scene would not have added anything concrete to the movie anyway

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#108277: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:02:51 AM

@alliterator It seems that the reason wasn't so much a continuity thing, but rather Disney and Marvel not wanting Venom to be related in anyway to the MCU. Holland's cameo would imply that Venom is part of their universe, and they didn't want that, which is fair.

Edited by Akirakan on Aug 29th 2019 at 10:03:57 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108278: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:03:53 AM

A Spider-Man scene would not have added anything concrete to the movie anyway

Agreed. That's why I was against the Venom movie from the start. Any interaction Spider-Man would have with Venom loses all significance when you don't have the Symbiote be with Peter, have Peter dump it after realizing the damage it's doing to him, and then have the Symbiote go to Eddie where they realize they both hate Peter Parker, the Spider-Man. (Eddie would also need to hate Peter or Spidey. Not sure how'd that be feasible though, so whatever.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 29th 2019 at 1:04:50 PM

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#108279: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:07:55 AM

Remember when Amy Pascal said Venom was part of the MCU, and Feige did a double-take?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#108280: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:12:59 AM

I regret supporting Venom.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108283: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:17:01 AM

I regret all of you. Yes, even you.

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#108284: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:18:42 AM

I have no regrets

aside watching that Hulk movie that one time,and Catwomen

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108285: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:19:53 AM

This gag is already regretful.

The legend has returned.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#108286: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:21:00 AM

Life is full of regrets, but it’s nothing worth getting too mad over hopefully.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108287: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:25:23 AM

I never bothered with Venom because I knew there would be zero MCU connections and the marketing was eh, so I regret nothing. evil grin

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108288: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:26:58 AM

[up]O.K, I changed my mind, I regret specifically you.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108289: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:36:38 AM

[up] Ok, I regret you and you know what? I half-regret seeing Into the Spider-Verse since that and Venom were what convinced Rothman to drop the Marvel deal after FFH.

Even if he had no faith towards ITSV.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#108290: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:38:42 AM

[up]Yeah, well, I regret you even more! So there!

Also, citation needed.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108291: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:41:25 AM

[up] I regret to inform you that I can’t exactly find where it says that Rothman had no faith in ITSV.

Maybe it was in a different MCU forum.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#108292: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:41:33 AM

Sony being so insistent on crossing over Holland's Spider-Man and Venom is easily the most annoying part of this whole deal.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108293: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:49:07 AM

> Sony being so insistent on crossing over Holland's Spider-Man and Venom is easily the most annoying part of this whole deal.

Agreed. I mean, I still want to see it happen, but I prefer it'd be done by professionals who build up to it properly, not by soulless, brainless bean-counters who jump right to it because they got to have money.

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#108294: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:55:09 AM

So...remember when everyone went and spent money to watch Venom because of that one tiny microscopic possibility that Tom Holland would appear as Peter Parker, only to be disappointed that no such event happened and they just spent money on a subpar anti-hero movie?

Is that the new conspiracy theory for why Venom made $856m?

Last I heard, the going excuse was "Everyone went to see it because it was SO SO BAD that they couldn't NOT see how bad it is for themselves. Multiple times, even."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 29th 2019 at 11:55:25 AM

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Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108295: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:58:01 AM

[up][up] I'm curious about where the line is between those? Marvel is rife with Executive Meddling and the desire to make moolah like anyone else. They just happen to make the movies good.

[up] I assume Venom appealed to the sizable quadrant of people who don't talk about the movies online and just wanted to watch a goofy action movie/buddy-comedy, and don't really get that deep into questions of what makes a movie good or not. There are a lot of 'em.

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#108296: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:59:32 AM

I assume Venom appealed to the sizable quadrant of people who don't talk about the movies online and just wanted to watch a goofy action movie/buddy-comedy, and don't really get that deep into questions of what makes a movie good or not. There are a lot of 'em.

That's pretty much it, yeah.

A lot of people went to see Venom, and then enjoyed Venom. Plenty of movie-goers didn't even realize they were supposed to be upset about Spider-Man not being in the film, and just had a good time.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 29th 2019 at 11:59:58 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#108297: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:02:04 AM

It only survived due to the charisma of Tom Hardy.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#108298: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:04:13 AM

I like that a segment of the population that saw it and liked it are all there for the relationship between a boy and his blob

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108299: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:05:23 AM

I like that a segment of the population that saw it and liked it are all there for the relationship between a boy and his blob

Yes! That game is a classic.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#108300: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:09:25 AM

They'll need to cast as well on Morbius and the like before they have any reassurance.

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