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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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I think it's more like if you have humans who aren't from Earth. They're still humans but not Earthlings.
“Whale populations might be rebounding and introverts feel better about being out in public. Silver lining, right?”
“Shut up, Steve”
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAlthough I realize that this would be getting rid of "nuance", and Thanos already does plenty of things that show he's not a good guy, I kind of wish it was revealed that he wiped out Titan himself.
Basically, he'd start out as The Jor-El and then when no one would listen to him, he'd decide that the best thing to do would be to nuke the place from orbit before its "inevitable" decline.
Also, I find it quite amusing that in the comics, Thanos' species are Human Aliens and the fact that he looks like a giant raisin is some kind of genetic mutation.
In fact, California Raisin Thanos was so bizarre that seeing her mutant baby made Thanos’ mom immediately go crazy and try to kill him claiming he was EVIL
Which possibly may have been a scarring experience
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think the main criticism is less anything Thanos did, and more that no one tried to challenge his goals on a logical level (as opposed to a purely moral one).
No one said "Hang on, at best it's a stopgap measure. If there's really too many people what we need is long term population management, and if we can do that then we don't need to kill half the population in the first place."
Or alternatively reveal that the problems on Gamora's homeworld weren't really caused by overpopulation, but because a highly corrupt regime was in place that was utterly demolished by Thanos's assault. The government that rose up to replace it is, if nothing else, much better at not letting it's own population starve.
To make a comparison with Black Panther, Killmonger is responding to very legitimate problems created by Wakanda's isolationism and the movie makes that very clear. However the movie also portrays Killmongers as being logically flawed, and presents an alternative solution to the problem that lacks those flaws.
I don't really know how you'd do that naturally. It's not like Thanos or any of his minions were open to debate and everyone else already knows his plan is nuts.
This song needs more love.I mean, don't forget that neither Thanos nor Killmonger were really fighting for the exact causes they claimed to. Thanos just wanted to prove himself right to a bunch of dead people, and Killmonger just wanted the whole world to burn for the pain it caused him. Universal salvation and racial upheaval are just palatable excuses they tell themselves.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Maybe he assumed nobody crashing through his window to kill him was a signifier of gratitude. Past!Thanos noticeably goes "ah you ungrateful shits" when the Avengers kill his past self.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."By not acknowledging those logical flaws in any way, it kind of makes it feel like the filmakers believed that, at least in in terms of cold heartless logic, Thanos is completely right to wipe out half the universe.
And there were several opportunities to bring it up naturally in Infinity War. Doctor Strange had a conversation with Thanos which he could of brought up the logical faults of the plan. Or when Gamora first details Thanos's endgame, someone else present could of raised that logical objection.
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Still doesn't mean the problem they're talking about never existed. A wrong solution (and whatever motives you consider questionable) does not equal a wrong problem. Nobody ever tries to assert that the problem never existed.
Black Panther had it's antagonist try to solve the problem in a violent way and has it's protagonist end the movie by trying to solve the same problem in a peaceful way: Killmonger wanted to distribute advanced weapons while T'Challa took Wakanda from it's isolationism by the end. Killmonger's cause was never taken to be only smoke, the problem itself being fictional.
x7 It's not really about Thanos being malevolent, it's about whether his "Necessary Evil" was ever that necessary.
Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 27th 2019 at 5:10:34 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.There was a Polyon article explaining what the "Hail Hydra" scene was about to those not in the know
. One of the comments was funny and thought-provoking.
I really, really hope that if What If? doesn't cover the Endgame created alternate timelines that there's a tie-in comic or something released that does. Because there's tons of potential here.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers...I would watch that movie.
I'm just picturing Cap, like, walking into S.H.I.E.L.D. the next day and then Sitwell's just like, "Hey Cap, there you are. Been looking all over for you. Strucker needs to see us for a, uh, debriefing. Hail Hydra."
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.His face though. The expression work. It would be glorious.
Edited by Bocaj on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:19:19 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe future changed in the timeline where present Hawkeye stole his kids's baseball glove. Not finding the glove set off his son's temper, revealing his mega destroyer powers. Powers so great they were visible from orbit, scaring Thanos too much to ever come to Earth.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 27th 2019 at 6:20:28 AM
The last thing the real Cap reported was seeing Loki, thinking that future Cap was him. They know he escaped, so perhaps they could get around that and simply going "Loki tricked us".
I also imagine some Hydra higher-ups do know that Cap isn't a member, so probably they just go with that.
Edited by Akirakan on Aug 27th 2019 at 6:44:35 AM

That reminds me of a thing. There was some criticism of Thanos’ showing Dr Strange Titan before its destruction because the before image was kind of lifeless and empty
Which might make sense if he doesn’t consider the loss of the population to be the worst part of the tragedy, instead bemoaning the loss of the culture of the planet and it’s natural beauty. Which could make sense considering he’s also the guy whose first answer to any problem is “kill half of the people”
Preservation of life isn’t his priority. So he shows Strange the before picture and goes “look how nice and vibrant it was!” “What about the people?” “The what?”
Forever liveblogging the Avengers