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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#108127: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:42:35 AM

....... Well that's unrelated.

Wow. That was uncalled for.

I can't blame you for getting out of there. That was clearly gonna go bad.

Thanks.

I know we need to be realistic about all this, but IF this situation actually does work out in a week's time, the troll, whoever they are, is going to look particularly silly in hindsight.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108128: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:44:47 AM

Indeed. Though someone like that would be unlikely to let themselves be bothered by such things anyway.

Jerk would probably betray us to the Decepticons anyway. Can't trust him.

Asking this again since it probably got lost on the last page:

If and when Marvel goes all in on Nova, who do you think they'll use: Sam or Richard?

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108129: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:45:34 AM

[up] I would like them to go the same route with Spiderman ITSV, with Dick Richard Ryder as the cynicla mentor (Peter B. Parker) and Sam as the naive newcomer (Miles).

Now how would they explain Richards being already an human in space and seasoned in the nova suit gonna be difficult, unless they change him into being a Xandarian from the beggining.

Edited by eligram on Aug 27th 2019 at 11:46:38 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108131: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:47:57 AM

[up][up]

They could go the Star Lord route and say he was taken from Earth years earlier and found his way into the Corps?

Maybe have him and Sam's dad be buddies? We know there have been Aliens on Earth well before Thor, or even before the Skrulls and Kree. Or at least there were ones who Shield never knew about.

Which version of the costume would you go with? I actually prefer Sam's myself.

One Strip! One Strip!
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108132: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:52:37 AM

My only exposition to the suit are the Marvel vs Capcom one, and the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon. So I would have to say the Mv C one.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#108133: Aug 27th 2019 at 9:52:02 AM

According to recent statements, the eternals would be able to beat the guardians and the Avengers at the same time.

I guess this includes Wanda, Carol, Strange, Cap with Mjlonir, and Thor in his prime (Infinity War).

So they are probably more powerful than Thanos (Base).

It is weird that at one time it was said that Thanos was stronger guy in the universe and out of nowhere comes a complete race that is more powerful than him.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:56:21 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#108134: Aug 27th 2019 at 9:59:23 AM

I mean, technically in the comics, Thanos is an Eternal.

According to recent statements, the eternals would be able to beat the guardians and the Avengers at the same time.
What "recent statements"?

Edited by alliterator on Aug 27th 2019 at 9:59:45 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#108135: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:01:32 AM

also he was love with personification of Death

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#108136: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:04:54 AM

[up][up]In fact it is more Word of Saint Paul than the word of God, but it was mentioned by some actors.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Aug 27th 2019 at 10:05:05 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#108137: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:06:51 AM

It might be a numbers thing

Even if every Eternal isn’t as strong as Thanos they could dogpile him

And if they’re roughly on his same weight class, considering how much putting down Thanos required, it’s not unreasonable that the Eternals as a group could beat up the other hero groups

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#108138: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:10:41 AM

If they are able to beat Carol, Wanda, Strange and Thor (Infinity War) at the same time, at least one must be as strong as Thanos.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Aug 27th 2019 at 10:11:03 AM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#108139: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:24:04 AM

A certain someone isn't treated as a (complete) joke for once!

Also spoilers, probably?

Edited by alekos23 on Aug 27th 2019 at 8:24:25 PM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#108140: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:29:45 AM

I find it curious that Loki is still a client of that bar, he helped save Asgard and sacrificed himself for his brother.

Palpatine has expelled clients for less than that.

I guess Loki has seniority privilege.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108141: Aug 27th 2019 at 10:34:47 AM

Successfully destroying the kingdom he spent his life trying to usurp is pretty ambiguous so far as heroic deeds go. Like, the context of needing to do it in order to defeat Hela makes it a good. But. Like. Big picture, Loki tried to steal the throne of Asgard twice and then he turned Asgard into a molten heap of shattered hopes and ruined dreams, rendering the Asgardian people refugees and ending the seemingly endless reign of the greatest kingdom in the Nine Realms.

Loki destroyed Asgard. Like, successfully destroyed Asgard. It's gone. Forever. Because of him. I can see why Palps would give him a pass on "But he also screwed another bad guy while doing it."

And he didn't sacrifice himself for Thor. He gave Thanos the Tesseract (which he had swiped from Asgard without telling anyone). Then he tried to shank Thanos. Then Thanos didn't let Loki shank him and instead killed Loki. That's not a sacrifice, that's a failed attempt at surprise murder.

This is not like the Suicide Squad, who were "villains" 'cause the movie says so but were really just a bunch of particularly surly antiheroes who almost never do anything wicked or villainous. He may have made a Heel–Face Turn in Ragnarok, but even as a good guy, Loki, Destroyer of Asgard, Failed Betrayer-Assassin of Thanos totes still has villain cred. He's even got a new show coming up that erases his Character Development, to boot.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 27th 2019 at 11:43:04 AM

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108142: Aug 27th 2019 at 11:34:14 AM

Anyone see Jeff Goldblum's reaction to hearing about the Sony/Marvel Spider-Man break-up? It's hilarious in that classic Jeff Goldblum fashion.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#108144: Aug 27th 2019 at 12:21:06 PM

If Thanos is an Eternal and the Eternals are just an entire species of people as strong as Thanos, no shit a large team of them could wreck the Guardians and the Avengers at the same time, that's obvious. Makes me wonder what the scale of this movie is gonna be, if every single member of the team is going to be roughly on the same tier of power as Thanos.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108145: Aug 27th 2019 at 12:25:03 PM

Well, Thanos' species in the MCU is technically "Titan"? I'm not sure, I don't think they ever gave a name for the purple wrinkly-chin people. But he's the last one, in any case, since his home planet was wiped out.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108146: Aug 27th 2019 at 12:45:06 PM

> But he's the last one, in any case, since his home planet was wiped out.

By him doing something..my favourite theory is that he did something that led to Galactus devouring his planet and leaving him the lone survivor

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#108147: Aug 27th 2019 at 12:47:24 PM

[up][up]Oh, right, duh. He had a whole Power Point presentation about how he was the last survivor. I forgot.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#108148: Aug 27th 2019 at 12:50:47 PM

In the comics, Thanos is both from Titan and an Eternal.

This song needs more love.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108150: Aug 27th 2019 at 1:09:29 PM

[up][up]So Titan is species, Eternal is some group or team or classification.


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