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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108051: Aug 26th 2019 at 11:46:10 AM

I don't know why anyone actually thought Marvel could undercut Sony with a live-action show.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#108052: Aug 26th 2019 at 12:00:34 PM

Moving away from my last couple posts making fun of the Spider-Man situation, all of the upcoming shows sound awesome, and I think I will definitely need to get Disney Plus.

Regarding the Wandavision show, although I'm not sure to what extent this was part of the Tom King series, if at all (I think it's mostly being cited as an inspiration because of its tone), but leading up to the Captain Hydra storyline in the comics, SHIELD was using the Cosmic Cube to create a Stepford Suburbia setting where criminals (and anyone who ran afoul of Maria Hill) were given a Heel-Face Mind Screw. And I recall their being details about heroes infiltrating that.

So, my guess is that this storyline will be used as something of an inspiration, and it will be about Wanda using her Infinity-stone derived powers and creating a fantasy world and Jimmy Woo and Katherine Hahn's characters will be forced to act as her neighbors. I'm thinking either they are agents who were keeping tabs on Wanda to start with, or else, they go undercover into the world Wanda created to figure out what's going on.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#108053: Aug 26th 2019 at 12:14:35 PM

[up][up][up] It’s a weird contract to boot, because - as Tobias notes - Jessica Drew has practically no “Spider-Man related elements” that Sony could bar Marvel Studios from using in the first place.

Pretty much the only thing linking them is the name (which was only done to keep someone else from snatching up the name), which Jessica doesn’t really need to be herself, and the fact that Jessica can stick to walls, a power she’s barely uses in comparison to her others - flight and lasers, iirc - and doesn’t need to be herself either (and which was probably given to give tenuous justification for the previous).

Marvel wouldn’t have much trouble adapting Jessica pretty much as is if they chose to. They just didn’t choose to.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#108054: Aug 26th 2019 at 12:16:48 PM

Okay, now I really want WandaVision to have an episode where Pietro shows up and he's treated as a very special guest star. It would be a good opportunity to explore how Wanda reacted after her brother's death.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#108055: Aug 26th 2019 at 12:54:56 PM

I wonder if they'll put the PG-13 cut of Deadpool 2 (Once Upon a Deadpool) on Disney +. Probably not though (since it requires knowing what happened in the first film, which has no PG-13 cut outside of the TV edit).

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#108056: Aug 26th 2019 at 12:59:04 PM

I've seen the TV cut of Deadpool on FX, and it's still pretty unedited in terms of violence and language, even leaving in a bunch of fucks.

The legend has returned.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108057: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:06:10 PM

Maybe they'll do a similar PG-13 cut for the other movie.

Edited by danime91 on Aug 26th 2019 at 1:06:40 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108058: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:07:05 PM

All swearing has been replaced with musical numbers and whistling

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108059: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:07:51 PM

You joke, but seeing Ryanpool in a musical would be hilarious and I'd pay good money to watch it.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108060: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:08:32 PM

All swearing replaced by Donald Duck angry giberish.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108061: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:10:17 PM

the violence is now harmless slapstick and the guns now shoot bubbles

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#108062: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:12:59 PM

[up]You know, a movie being that meta and having Deadpool dealing with suddendly dealing with a world like that and trying to return to a R rating, would be a movie I would totally watch.

Edited by eligram on Aug 26th 2019 at 4:15:05 AM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#108063: Aug 26th 2019 at 1:14:03 PM

Oh man, I would super watch that. Deadpool 3 as a violent parody of Disney musicals would be amazing.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#108065: Aug 26th 2019 at 2:02:08 PM

Spiderman's appearance in both of those (or is he only in the first one? I'm not sure if he shows up in video 2) is painfully ironic.

One Strip! One Strip!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#108066: Aug 26th 2019 at 3:01:56 PM

the xmen and Inhumans will be buried in the same cemetery

Feige already confirmed they have plans for the mutants, which is more than we can say for the Inhumans.

It'd be hilarious ironic if Kamala Khan ends up being a mutant.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#108067: Aug 26th 2019 at 3:16:48 PM

[up] And to make things more absurd, one of the best ways to intigrate mutants into the MCU would be for them to be incredibly rare historically, but some sort of event causes their population to increase by several orders of magnitude in a short span of time.

This would explain why we haven't heard of them before, give a large population of modern mutants, and still allow for some mutants who have been around longer.

In the original comics universe this event was the advent of nuclear weapons. But if it had to be something more modern...it starts sounding a lot like a Terragen bomb.

Ultimately the precise source of Kamala Khan's powers isn't vital to her character. So I could totally see her being a mutant.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#108068: Aug 26th 2019 at 3:23:10 PM

but some sort of event causes their population to increase by several orders of magnitude in a short span of time.

"No, more Mutants."

This song needs more love.
J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#108069: Aug 26th 2019 at 3:23:19 PM

They have to have Ms. Marvel team with Mr. Fantastic at one point once the FF gets off the ground. Having the two stretchy characters (granted, that's not her only power) together would be a cool visual (did it ever happen in the comics?).

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#108070: Aug 26th 2019 at 3:25:58 PM

From the Snap and its undoing, to the Battle of New York, there are probably a few events that could cause a spike on the mutant population. Kind of like the Flash series and that Particle Accelerator explosion, but global.

Edited by Blueace on Aug 26th 2019 at 7:27:45 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#108071: Aug 26th 2019 at 4:20:24 PM

About Magneto: update him into being Tutsi, so he survived a genocide in the 90's rather than in the 40's. It also could add some conflict with Wakandans, because they didn't do anything.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#108072: Aug 26th 2019 at 4:26:49 PM

Just checking but did the Xmen films keep his backstory involving the holocaust?

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#108073: Aug 26th 2019 at 4:29:06 PM

[up]Oh yeah. Even as far back as X1.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#108075: Aug 26th 2019 at 4:34:06 PM

The X-Men films were so intent on this that First Class made Sebastian Shaw (who's really more Mr. Sinister with Shaw's powers) The Ageless solely so he could take part in Magneto's backstory.

Edited by Gaon on Aug 26th 2019 at 4:35:16 AM

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