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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Ultimatum: Or they could just relegate the R-rated stuff to Hulu and advertise it as a perk of getting the Disney+/Hulu/ESPN bundle.
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary"Fine,we'll just make..Spider woman and add her to the Cinematic Universe,in your face Sony!"
"How are you going to explain her appearance and Peter's disappearance?
"Well you,Peter is in hiding and she's from another universe.."
Spider-Woman is an ex-Hydra super-soldier with no connection to Peter Parker or Spider-Man whatsoever, so explaining her appearance actually wouldn't be difficult at all. I don't know if the two characters ever even met before Peter joined the Avengers in the early 00's.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 26th 2019 at 11:26:23 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
I'm pretty sure that Sony still has the rights to Jessica Drew, though, despite the tenuous-at-best connection to Spider-Man.
At best, Marvel might be able to squeeze "Jessica" (without any last name) in as a Lawyer-Friendly Cameo in, say, Captain Marvel 2 without bringing in any Spider-related stuff (with the possibility of later pulling a Canon Character All Along, like the kid in Iron Man 2 who later got retconned into being Peter Parker) without running the risk of giving the higher-ups at Disney a headache by prompting Sony to attempt a lawsuit.
Edited by TrashJack on Aug 26th 2019 at 1:33:50 PM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryI think any reasonable judge would, after a months-long legal process, rule that Jessica has no connection whatsoever to the Spider-Man rights that Sony holds.
But because she has "Spider-" in her name, Sony might get uppity and decide they have a right to sue, and that's a headache Disney doesn't want to deal with.
The question isn't really "Who has the rights: Disney or Sony?" The question is "Is winning the legal case really worth needing to present a legal case in the first place?"
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 26th 2019 at 11:29:06 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I read the Julia Carpenter Spider-Woman miniseries recently
Her origin is so simple they devoted a whole issue out of a four issue miniseries retconning it.
But honestly it really is simple they just needed to take up an issue to explain how simple it was.
The government started a program to make their own superheroes that would be under their control, Val Cooper Bad Friend tricked college roommate Julia into the program under false pretenses, had her injected with a bunch of spider juice and told her it was a mistake, bam superpowers.
Does he enjoy talking to spiders more than Spider-Man did?
Edited by Bocaj on Aug 26th 2019 at 1:48:02 PM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm just going to quote this from the contract
, since I brought it up earlier in regards to Jessica Drew:
"Marvel and SPE must each notify the other of any intended use of these shared characters."
And just as another reminder:
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Aug 26th 2019 at 2:05:27 PM
They're just putting adult stuff on Hulu, which is what they've been saying for a while
.
Edited by comicwriter on Aug 26th 2019 at 11:11:11 AM

Yeah but that cliffhanger tho...
Tangentially related, Disney+ won't host R-rated content.
So Moon Knight will probably be a strong PG-13 at most.