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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#107951: Aug 25th 2019 at 6:02:06 PM

I wasn’t interested in Wandavision before, but now I am! This looks weird.

I like the way the poster is designed with the shadows and black-and-white and the fake smiles and ‘50s look to convey that it’s a fake reality constructed by Wanda. So many posters are just boring headshots or pictures of the actors now; it’s nice when they put some thought into it.

So this one, Falcon and Winter Soldier, and Loki are the ones I’m planning to see (plus Ms Marvel whenever it’s released). I can pick and choose between What If episodes depending on if an episode’s premise interests me. Definitely want to see Captain Peggy.

Edited by Galadriel on Aug 25th 2019 at 9:04:31 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107952: Aug 25th 2019 at 6:50:08 PM

And thus, Spiderman is forgotten.sad

I literally blame everyone, even if it's unfair.

.....but yeah, WandaVision looks like it's gonna be a crazy ride.

....does it not have a page yet?

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107953: Aug 25th 2019 at 6:56:51 PM

None of the shows have a page at the moment.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#107954: Aug 25th 2019 at 6:59:34 PM

Wanda Vision won’t be our for two years. Plus it hasn’t been filmed yet. Doesn’t that make it too early?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107955: Aug 25th 2019 at 7:12:33 PM

Fair enough.

Forgot that detail.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107956: Aug 25th 2019 at 7:31:00 PM

By the way, everyone should read The Vision (2015). It's bleak, depressing, but also so good. Issue #7, "I Too Shall Be Saved By Love," manages to recap the Vision and Scarlet Witch's entire history together in a single issue and be heartbreaking. Here's a small preview.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107957: Aug 25th 2019 at 7:43:25 PM

Magneto is like Norman Osborn. They should avoid immediately jumping to him since he's already been heavily used in previous films, but he needs to eventually be there. And his presence should be felt to some degree (though not as ridiculously as the way the Amazing Spider-Man films had Oscorp be responsible for literally every significant event in the universe).

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107958: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:15:58 PM

I hope MCU Magneto never becomes Wanda’s dad

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107959: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:17:09 PM

You say that like it matters.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107960: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:18:36 PM

A hope is a wish your heart makes

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107961: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:21:41 PM

[up] No, it's a dream is a wish your heart makes.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#107962: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:23:41 PM

Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107963: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:29:32 PM

A dream is nonsense signals interpreted by your brain into something almost resembling coherence.

Cinderella needs to go back to definition school.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107964: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:30:55 PM

"Stars don't care what you wish, and magic don't make things better, and no-one doesn't get burned who sticks their hand in a fire." — Terry Pratchett

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107965: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:32:07 PM

[up][up]That's only one definition of the word.

Merriam Webster's entry on "dream".

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107966: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:33:30 PM

In which case my use of hope was practically a synonym so bleh

Also hearts don't strongly desire much, what with lacking the capacity. Take that, figurative language

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 25th 2019 at 11:35:20 AM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#107967: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:34:38 PM

They could make Magneto Wanda's grandfather if they want to keep his backstory as a Holocaust survivor. Hell, he could be Wanda's great-grandfather at this rate.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107968: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:35:15 PM

Merriam Webster's entry on "hope". and their entry on "heart".

Edited by M84 on Aug 25th 2019 at 11:36:01 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107969: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:36:13 PM

Dream literally shows up as a synonym for hope.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107970: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:37:07 PM

My point is that this whole tangent on whether "dream" or "hope" is the right word is pedantic and silly and kind of pointless.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107971: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:37:07 PM

Are we talking organ hearts or Kingdom Hearts hearts?

Either way I don't trust what they have to say.

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107973: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:38:20 PM

Yeah. Mags is now way too old at this point.

Also, while I hate the retcon of the twins no longer being his kids, I also have to admit that their relationship with their father had long since stopped going anywhere, but hate on all sides.

I do wish they hadn't retconned them as mutants. True, they were barely connected to the mutant side of things, but still...

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107974: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:40:01 PM

The only good Magneto is the Maximoff's father story I ever read is when he shows up uninvited to Thanksgiving in the Scarlet Witch Vision maxi-series and makes everyone feel uncomfortable.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107975: Aug 25th 2019 at 8:40:24 PM

It was a pointless retcon since it was only done to dissociate the twins entirely from being Mutants.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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