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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#107801: Aug 24th 2019 at 1:22:52 PM

[up][up]Yeah, ask Andrew Garfield how that went.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#107802: Aug 24th 2019 at 1:23:52 PM

[up][up][up]If Sony makes non-MCU Spider-Man films I'd prefer Tom Holland not be involved. He's a good Spider-Man, he doesn't deserve to be stuck in a crappy Sony film.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#107803: Aug 24th 2019 at 1:35:42 PM

People were asking for Spider clones. Not like this, they cry. Not like this.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107804: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:00:11 PM

I've seen the reports that Tom Holland and Zendaya publicly unfollowed Sony on Instagram or something, but has anyone confirmed whether or not they were following them to begin with? Because it'd be funny if true.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107805: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:12:08 PM

70/30 Sony/Disney, according to the last report we've heard on the matter.

I'm still not totally sure what's 100% truth or not on this.

I'll still with my both sides suck until then.

I'd admittedly make a lousy business man.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107806: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:13:05 PM

Looks like Tom Holland will still be Spider-Man after all, with or without Marvel.

Uh...I'm not sure how to take this.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 24th 2019 at 5:15:09 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#107807: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:16:04 PM

In my opinion, Sony taking the 70/30 money deal wouldn't have worked out well for Sony either. The original Sony-Disney deal was Sony getting all the money, Disney getting all the creative control. Sony giving up part of the money but receiving no creative control in exchange would basically be giving Disney an extra 30% for free. And given that, in business terms, Disney plays the long game... camel's nose in the tent.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 24th 2019 at 2:16:58 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107808: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:22:58 PM

Another insider is being cryptic.

I'm noticing some insiders on Twitter are posting images and GIFs that have some connection to Spider-Man, almost as if they know something...

...And I'm not sure we'll like that "something."

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 24th 2019 at 5:24:57 AM

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#107809: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:25:58 PM

I'm happy Tom is keeping the Spider-Man mantle. But I do see a double edged sword here.

On one hand, fans refuse to see the new Spidey films, Sony either comes crawling back to Disney, or decide to just throw in the towel with Spider Man films.

On the other hand, the films are successful adding "proof" that Sony doesn't need Disney or Marvel.

I still say this isn't final.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107810: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:36:41 PM

The same link also had some words from Kevin Feige:

"I’m feeling about Spider-Man gratitude and joy. We got to make five films within the MCU with Spider-Man: two standalone films and three with the Avengers. It was a dream that I never thought would happen. It was never meant to last forever. We knew there was a finite amount of time that we’d be able to do this, and we told the story we wanted to tell, and I’ll always be thankful for that."

...If that were true, then why end on that gotdang cliffhanger?

Can't anyone set the record straight?!

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107811: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:41:01 PM

[up]It's possible the cliffhanger was more for Sony's benefit than Marvel's.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107812: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:46:49 PM

Feige has said again Eternals will have the MCU's first gay character.

The Eternals will feature Marvel’s first openly gay character...he’s married and has a family and it’s part of who he is.”

And before anyone says "But Joey!" I think it's clear by now when they say this, they're referring to the movies.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#107813: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:47:51 PM

Was that incredibly bit part in Endgame not a character? Does he mean first character with any appreciable screentime?

It is a step up, in any case

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#107814: Aug 24th 2019 at 2:55:48 PM

Everyone is freaking out about the statements Tom Holland and Feige made today, but they're so vague and cryptic, I'm not gonna believe anything until we get an official statement

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#107816: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:06:18 PM

Okay, so there might be an agreement made after all.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107817: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:10:36 PM

Variety is saying just in case anyone thought Kit Harrington was gonna play Wolverine or a Fantastic Four role (prior to the revelation he's playing Black Knight), don't expect casting on those projects for a while. They're saying we'll probably hear more on those movies next year at the earliest.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 24th 2019 at 3:10:57 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#107818: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:17:40 PM

Apparently we also got footage of the Black Widow movie?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107819: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:18:08 PM

Man so many shows to look forward too & we have to wait a year at most. sad

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107820: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:20:39 PM

On the subject of TV, I wonder if Ms. Marvel will still be an Inhuman or if they'll have the Kree be responsible for her powers or something. Someone noted the Hala star is in her logo, which is not the case in the comics.

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#107821: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:22:15 PM

They won't make her an inhuman,consider the inhumans dead after the disaster of a tv show

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107822: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:26:02 PM

Hah.

Yeah, Permulter's determination to fit a round peg into a square hole may have completely destroyed the Inhumans in both comics and television.

If I'm wrong, yeah. That being said, they could easily still keep the Kree involvement but have them directly be responsible for changing people as opposed to the Inhumans.

I mean, we know they're pricks. It's not a stretch.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107823: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:29:13 PM

[up][up][up]I don't think she'll be an Inhuman but I think the star is just a reference to Captain Marvel, who will probably be in the show.

Honestly I think they'll just keep the whole "Gets caught in mist" part of her origin and change the origin of the mist.

Edited by LordVatek on Aug 24th 2019 at 6:29:22 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#107824: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:37:19 PM

The Inhumans show was bad but the Agents of SHIELD Inhumans are good

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107825: Aug 24th 2019 at 3:43:24 PM

So they cancel each other out then.

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