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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#107751: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:48:04 AM

[up][up] I think that was mostly Ike Perlmutter (chairman and former CEO of Marvel Entertainment, also a current figure in the Trump administration)'s doing, not so much Disney as a whole.

Then again, Disney did let him do the FF/X-Embargo.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107752: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:48:55 AM

Once again, I really have a hard time shedding tears for Marvel not having the film rights to Spider-Man when they're still the dominant pop culture force on the planet right now. And I felt similarly years ago when fans kept insisting Fox had an obligation to give back the X-Men because Marvel deserved them or some bullshit.

I'm sure they'll make it through this difficult time.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 24th 2019 at 9:50:28 AM

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#107753: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:49:53 AM

So you know what I would do if I was in Sony's shoes? Aside of because I would love it as a fan...

Accept the conditions that was posted before, plus asking for total access, control and financial gain (Or at least 95%/5%) in all of Marvel's IP for animated movies. Both Disney nor Marvel seems ibterested in doing animated films.

After all, Sony already showed themselves capable with Into the Spider-Verse. Imagine other's properties done in the same style, more faithful to comics and not bounded by live action limitations of what one could do.

And while I could understand wanting to go with big names heroes first like Iron-man and the other's avengers, I would go with heroes more adecuate for animation, like Moon girl, Squirrel-girl, Miss Marvel.

Hell, give me a Hawkeye Matt Fraction adaptation in the same style of ITSV and I would give you all the money!!!!

Edited by eligram on Aug 24th 2019 at 12:55:23 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107754: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:50:14 AM

Well, Marvel and the rest are doing more big announcements in 10 minutes.

Anyone watching?

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#107755: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:54:52 AM

[up][up][up] I think we should be more concerned that Sony may have not only shot themselves in the foot by refusing to compromise with Disney, but will bleed out until it's too late to cauterize the wound. Spidey is Sony Pictures' only profitable franchise now that they no longer have Bond, but now with both Avi Arad and Tom "Barakapool and Fant4stic are good ideas" Rothman in charge instead of Marvel Studios, they look poised to repeat all the mistakes that led to them making the Disney deal in the first place, and then some. This could easily lead to Sony Pictures getting sold off by Sony Corporation to, let's say, Comcast, and thus further consolidating corporate media power.

Edited by TrashJack on Aug 24th 2019 at 1:09:24 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#107756: Aug 24th 2019 at 9:56:30 AM

> Anyone watching?

Im not watching but im still hoping for squirrel girl

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107757: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:19:24 AM

I like Spider Man where he is.

I wanted to see him in College (which is probably one of his best eras alongside his time married to MJ), I want to see live action Miles etc. I want to see him part of the universe.

I do hate how they keep tying him to Tony Stark, but I've been beginning to suspect part of that might be Marvel / Disney's attempt to make him more tied to their universe than Sony's products. Maybe subtly hint to the latter that he's better when he's in that world, along with all his characters as opposed to stupidly trying to create their own verses for each of them.

I get on an intellectual level that it's all about money for both sides, but that doesn't help in the slightest. Quit being jackasses, work something out, give the fans what they want, because your money comes from them.

Unfortunately, from their point of view their wallets won't take all that huge a dent so why worry? I wish we could disprove that in some way, make both sides suffer as much as possible. Make them regret ever doing this shit.

But that won't happen. Plus, it's likely not all that productive either.

I'm just...sick of this shit.

One Strip! One Strip!
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#107758: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:26:27 AM

[up]Same. I just care about and am invested on Holland's Spider-Man and his supporting cast as characters, I care about their corner in the MCU and I want to see their stories played out.

Edited by Nightwire on Aug 24th 2019 at 10:27:28 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107759: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:30:13 AM

Black Panther II comes out May 6, 2022.

This song needs more love.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107760: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:30:34 AM

They confirmed Black Panther 2 is out May 2022.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107761: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:34:27 AM

Kit Harington is playing Dane Whitman AKA Black Knight in Eternals.

This song needs more love.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107762: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:34:29 AM

Gemma Chan is playing Sersi, Kit Harrington is playing Black Knight.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107763: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:38:52 AM

Black Knight in the MCU?

Could not see that coming...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#107764: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:39:50 AM

Last I checked, the Black Knight wasn't an Eternal....unless there's something about him I don't know that is.

One Strip! One Strip!
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#107765: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:42:15 AM

They explicitly stated that Black Knight is not a Eternal.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107766: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:42:27 AM

Marvel's portion is done. No Spider-Man.

Edited by LordVatek on Aug 24th 2019 at 1:42:35 PM

This song needs more love.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107767: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:43:24 AM

> Marvel's portion is done. No Spider-Man.

(Flatlines)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 24th 2019 at 1:45:36 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107769: Aug 24th 2019 at 10:54:24 AM

Huh excited for what they’ll look like in costume.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#107770: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:18:15 AM

[up][up][up] Give it a year before the deal is dead for good

Just Makima.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107771: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:26:21 AM

Give it a year before the deal is dead for good

(TargetmasterJoe is dead...)

(*lifts arms and slams them into chest*)

(*GASP*)

Hey, random thought, how long did the whole James Gunn thing last for? It might not be the same thing, but...

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107772: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:28:19 AM

[up]Eight months, give or take.

This song needs more love.
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#107773: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:28:43 AM

I think from July last year to March this year, correct if wrong.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#107774: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:30:56 AM

[up][up] Around a year then.

Just Makima.
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#107775: Aug 24th 2019 at 11:33:54 AM

I do would say that the situation here is more complicated than what happened with Gunn.

The case with Gunn was with one corporation with one individual. Spider-Man's is two big corporations each seeking for their own interests.


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