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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#107301: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:16:20 AM

[up]I don't know. I just don't know if I must be neutral or siding with either Sony or Disney.

I may be considered too optimistic for saying this, but I really hope for a fair end about this situation that will please everyone.

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#107302: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:22:10 AM

I want to say "Yes it does" If most of the creative team are working for Disney/Marvel then a pure Sony production may not have access to that talent, for various reasons, contract or just not impressed with Sony. Its more than a name that makes a movie its all the moving parts, they will need at least some (if not all) of the creative team that made the first two films smash hits to give the new Sony only film a shot at keeping that quality up.

It also depends on Sony to keep its hands off, Feige was pretty good about that, he hired good people and for the most part let them work, Sony has a habit of meddling (See SM 3, GB Reboot) so even if they get the same team...if Sony tries to be more 'hands on' it could wreck the movie and cause defections.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107303: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:38:56 AM

Hey, how credible is John Campea? Because he might've brought in a new wrinkle to the situation...

Apparently, Sony offered a 30/70 split with Marvel, but Marvel wanted all the control and 50% of all Spider-Movies, including Morbius, Kraven, and Jackpot.

Uh...

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107304: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:41:35 AM

[up] Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone who says that, especially a YouTuber.

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#107305: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:43:33 AM

[up][up]Let’s answer that with another question: what are his sources?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107306: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:48:36 AM

[up] Studio executives apparently? I'm not sure... I wasn't expecting the video to be 2+ hours.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#107307: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:53:58 AM

Always beware of the Random You Tuber with "Sources Inside the Studio" when they do not name the source, the only people that can get away with the 'Confidential Source' are actual journalists working for actual news outlets

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#107308: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:55:04 AM

And even then it is not wise to take everything at face value.

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#107309: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:57:35 AM

They established clearly that Sony wants to keep going with Tom Holland.

But Holland might not be as reciprocal according to how his Instagram doesn't have Sony Pictures in his "following" list anymore.

Which might not be a good thing for hopes of a follow-up on Far From Home's conclusion. I know there's been some conversation around the idea that Sony will continue with Tom Holland, making their own Spider-films.

But if Holland makes too many waves telling Sony to eat a dick, they might just decide to go for a full reboot rather than try to work with an insubordinate lead actor.

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#107310: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:01:49 PM

Wasn't there a claim before that part of the reason why MCU Spidey's supporting cast was so radically different than their comics versions was to get around copyrights concerning those comic characters? Meaning Marvel owns the films rights to "MJ" Michelle Jones, Sony owns the rights to Mary-Jane Watson, etc.

Guess I'll look forward to seeing Zendaya in a supersuit come Avengers 5.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107311: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:04:13 PM

Gah, I can't deal with this.

I have real-life stuff to deal with...

sad

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#107312: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:06:25 PM

[up][up]I’m pretty sure at that point they just throw everyone out. Ned, Michelle, Flash, all off to have recurring bits in Euphoria I suppose.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#107313: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:11:13 PM

[up][up][up] That’s definitely not true. The film license and original copyrights don’t intersect that way.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:12:25 PM

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#107314: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:16:17 PM

But a reboot means more recasting of characters. You know they want Osborn again, May again, Ben again with others in waiting. A fourth time around might be a little too much for fans.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107315: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:16:45 PM

Yeah, Midnight's Edge made that claim, but it doesn't make any sense. They specifically cited Aunt May, but "May Parker, except she's in her 40s now" isn't the same thing as creating a new, legally distinct character. By that logic, every single character who has ever undergone some sort of significant change in an adaptation would legally be a new character, which is not the case.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:25:56 PM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#107316: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:18:39 PM

I've seen jokes about any possible reboots making her even younger [lol]

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107317: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:19:56 PM

[up] In fairness, OG!Aunt May looks old enough to be Peter's grandma, so it's totally logical to young her up.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#107318: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:23:22 PM

[up][up] Can't wait for the movie of adolecent aunt May having to deal with his nephew being the friendly neighbor Spider-baby tongue

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#107319: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:24:39 PM

They may adapt her out like they did with Uncle Ben,though its unlikely

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#107320: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:25:00 PM

Well, the current actress for Aunt May, Marisa Tomei, is 54 years old, she just looks great for her age. She's the same age as Robert Downey Jr.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107321: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:26:51 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Clearly the Aunt May spin-off movie is finally coming to fruition.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:27:12 PM

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#107322: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:38:54 PM

[up]Oh, you mean Infinity May 4? [1]

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107323: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:35:41 PM

So, in other news, Amy Berg lost out in becoming a writer for the Hawkeye series...because another writer had already been hired.

Amy Berg is a former writer for Person of Interest and Leverage, so if they had hired her, it would have been a pretty good sign. At this moment, we don't know who they hired, but they are a friend of Berg's.

Edited by alliterator on Aug 21st 2019 at 1:36:24 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#107324: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:42:29 PM

If this deal really does wind up getting broken off, I hope Tom Holland and the rest of the cast aren't still conscripted to do subsequent Spider-Man films.

It'd be weird having him in the role when it's no longer connected to the MCU at all.

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qwigly Since: Mar, 2016
#107325: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:57:18 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.

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