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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Two more films, actually.
There aren't even any Spidey movies planned for the next two years. This will play out much like the James Gunn situation, if for nothing else than the fact that Spider-Man is more popular than Guardians of the Galaxy by ,like, a mile
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.Huh, never heard of the "cartoon under 40 minutes" stipulation, but it does make sense. Well... shit.
As for how the movies will deal with Peter's absence, I think they might not even bring it up. Aside from the fact that most of the heroes didn't have as strong a bond with Peter as Tony did, it would leave things open on the slim chance Sony and Disney managed to work things out.
If they do reference it, it'll probably be pretty vague and not reference Peter by name. Like, someone might say "And no one's seen the kid in years" in the middle of a conversation to explain why Spider-Man isn't around for the next team-up.
I don't care who's to blame.
<Points at Disney and Sony>
FIX THIS. NOW.
I wish I could demand a boycott of both companies. Marvel too, because they probably did something to cause this mess.
Yeah, I'm being ridiculous. I've never had a good head for business. I don't care. I want my proper Marvel universe, and all this idiots are screwing it up. Maybe if I'm ever in their position, I'll think differently, but for now....
<Points at Disney and Sony>
FIX THIS. RIGHT !@#-ING NOW.
One Strip! One Strip!I think I'm on Sony's side of this whole mess, honestly. The whole reason they agreed to this arrangement was under the idea that it would make them more money than trying to make their own Spider-films, given the dismal financial spiral their Spider-films were under.
Disney made them a billion-dollar movie? Okay, but Disney's also asking for a 50/50 split under the new deal.
Spider-Man: Far From Home made $1.1 billion. If Broken Home matches it under the 50/50 deal, then Sony makes $550m off of it. By comparison, the lowest-grossing Spider-film Sony ever made was Amazing Spider-Man 2, which hit $709m.
The old deal was "You don't get to use Spidey in your movies and we do in ours, BUT we'll make movies that reverse the downward trend Spidey's under and pull in insane MCU cash for you."
The new deal is "You don't get to use Spidey in your movies and we do in ours, and also your take is kind of shit. You could probably just churn out low-budget rights-preserving trash and make more money than we're offering."
50% of a billion-dollar movie isn't a billion-dollar movie anymore. If the MCU deal is going to tank Sony's earnings from the franchise, where's the incentive for them to maintain it?
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And Disney's lawyers and whatnot were almost certainly going to negotiate down from the initial 50/50 offer (but still above the 5% that they were getting). Disney aren't a pack of morons wearing suits, they have a pretty solid grasp on how to do everything related to filmmaking, including contract negotiation.
Edited by TrashJack on Aug 21st 2019 at 11:26:26 AM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
That's what I thought too, Sony won't get 50% of one film every few years, but 50% of ALL Spider based films with the possibility of multiple films in a single year for very minimal work as Disney/Marvel would STILL be doing all the creative heavy lifting and covering 50% of the costs of all those films, Sony would most likely still retain Distribution right and have to fork over more production costs. But at the end of the day...Sony in the long run would come out ahead on this deal.
The only way this would make sense is if Sony was suddenly able to make billion dollar films, the short answer is...they can't.
Right. Are we clear on exactly what the deal is?
Seems there's still a lot of confusion about what's going on.
One Strip! One Strip!

That's why I have to believe they'll eventually work something out.
There's too much at stake to just give up on it
Disney may be greedy, but they're also smart
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.