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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
When someone says "Studio X made the film" they are using it as shorthand. They don't mean it literally. Which you know.
In any case, my point still stands: Disney made the film, Sony distributed the film.
(By the way, production companies actually do make films. And Marvel Studios is a production company. Which made Spider-Man: Far From Home alongside Columbia Pictures and Pascal Pictures. Again: Sony only distributed.)
Edited by alliterator on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:08:26 PM
For the record, the Disney/Sony deal paid Disney based on first dollar gross. Meaning Disney got 5% of the first day's box office. Not 5% of total gross. Far From Home grossed $39,255,628 on its first day. Assuming I didnt flub up, that puts 5% of first gross at $1,962,781.40
Edited by Zeromaeus on Aug 21st 2019 at 3:15:20 PM
Yes, it is.
You get a percentage of the first day's gross, instead of waiting for the entire thing, because, again, Hollywood Accounting might mean you see nothing. There are actors who negotiated for a first-dollar gross, so if the movie was an immediate hit, they got paid first, rather than wait until everyone was paid and then get paid from the back-end.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:48:24 PM
...Its literally in the first sentence.
You don't get a percentage of the first day, you get it from the first day.
It means you don't have to wait till break even to start getting points.
Which means Marvel got $55 million from Far From Home.
Now its true that sometimes there are a few expenses taken from net, and not gross. But it still doesn't mean ONLY the first day's profits.
Edited by ArthurEld on Aug 21st 2019 at 3:51:40 PM
Yeah, Columbia Pictures is part of the Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group
, alongside Tristar Pictures.
Yeah, 5% of even first-dollar gross is ridiculously low. Marvel probably agreed upon it because they really, really wanted Spider-Man in the MCU at the time.
As an counter-example, Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielberg shared 40% of the first-dollar gross of Saving Private Ryan. Which netted them about 96 million each.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 21st 2019 at 1:13:59 AM
Oh give me a break. Disney are one of the kings of exploiting contracts and screwing over other people. Remember the shit they pulled with their agreement with Robin Williams playing the Genie?
My point is, Disney did not get suckered in to signing a horribly lopsided deal against their own wishes in 2015, they are fucking Disney. The deal they inked was exactly what they wanted. Now they want more.
Again, the previous deal also includes unlimited use of the character in any team up movie, with Sony not even getting a single dollar for those.
Edited by qwigly on Aug 21st 2019 at 1:21:00 AM

He's pointing out an obvious fact-that placing the success or failure of a movie on Sony or Disney and not, you know, the people who acted/wrote/directed/shot/edited/scored, and so on a movie is...well, kind of dumb.
Jumanji wasn't good because it was a Sony film, it was good because the crew and cast put forth a good effort. Same of Far From Home, and any other movie ever made by any studio ever.