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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
@Danime91
In defense of Into The Spider-Verse, it was also produced with a much lower budget than a typical Disney or DreamWorks animated movie. Most of Disney's CGI movies these days cost somewhere in the ballpark of $180 million; Into The Spider-Verse was made for only about half that.
Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 20th 2019 at 1:59:14 PM
Nah.
As thing stood, Disney was paying for the lion's share of the production costs, while Sony kept the lion's share of the profit (which is as high BECAUSE of Disney's involvement).
And btw, Disney doesn't make 100% profit from Spidey merchandise. That's still split between them and the toy companies and what not.
It's just that Sony doesn't get anything from that particular pie.
As someone that liked MCU Spidey buy still had a lot of issues with their implementation, I'm torn in these news.
I'd like to see Tom Holland keep making MCU appearances in the future, but if it ends here I'm not gonna be too worried.
Sony is going to need to produce nothing but ITSV material from now on for me to care about their Solo Spidey going forward.
The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that's part of the reason they made Into The Spider-Verse in the first place. They wanted to have an alternative version of Spider-Man that they could keep if it ever came to a rights issue between them and Disney. Notice how the MCU Spider-Man is conspicuously absent from that movie? That's Sony saying "We don't need your Spider-Man to make a good movie when we have all these. "
Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 20th 2019 at 2:05:13 PM
Still, I have a feeling they greenlit that movie as a way of telling Disney that they can manage the Spider-Man property just fine by themselves, thank you very much. And if Disney ever does come knocking, asking for its toys back, Sony has a fallback it can use to keep producing Spider-Man movies.
Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 20th 2019 at 2:09:33 PM
Once again I really don’t trust Sony to make a quality product.
Sure the MCU Spidey-films have a Stark problem but at least they are at a fine level enough of quality.
It’s like wanting to be independent from a luxury suite & when you get independence you wind up living in a garbage pile.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."The fact of the matter is that Disney wanted more than the 5% they were getting and Sony didn't want that. Because it's about money and it's always been about money and now that Disney had made a billion-dollar movie for Sony — a movie that is now the highest grossing Sony movie ever — Disney thought that they were owed a bigger share of the pie.
Whether or not you believe that, the truth is indisputable: Sony co-financed the film (along with an equity firm), Disney made the film, and the Sony distributed the film. Disney gets 5% of the profits and the rest go to Sony. Sony wanted to continue this deal, because, hey, it's a great deal for Sony! Disney wanted to change the deal because, get this, they only get 5%. Of a movie they made.
Of course, Hollywood Accounting could also comes into play, because even though the movie made over a billion dollars, we can't know for sure how much Sony actually paid Disney. After all, the Lord of the Rings movies made billions, but Peter Jackson still had to sue New Line Cinema for funds that they never gave him.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 11:21:17 AM

Disney wanted to throw out the deal everyone slready liked and agreed to and which worked great, because they wanted more. And cause they wouldn't be satisfird with just having the same, and needed more, now they ruined the whole deal.
There isnt anything more to the sutuation that isnt just fanboyism.