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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107076: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:25:21 PM

But it was still Sony who left the table.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#107077: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:26:24 PM

The "terminated" news lines is rather scary, but until both sides disagree after some meetings then I would say cry our eyes out.

Just Makima.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#107078: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:31:23 PM

I have to be honest after giving it some thought, I'd be okay if Spider-Man were removed from the MCU. Like I would obviously prefer if he wasn't and Tom Holland is fantastic in the role but looking at the Comic-Con announcements and there is so much to look forward to that doesn't involve Spidey at all.

This song needs more love.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#107079: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:33:47 PM

Right now i cant stop Disney of saying "im altering the deal, pray that i dont altering further"

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#107080: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:43:26 PM

[up][up] But it would be like that Netflix Marvel stuff ending suddenly. It hurt some fans who liked that stuff feeling it ended up on a cliffhanger.

Just Makima.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#107081: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:52:54 PM

If we don't see Spider-Man in the MCU again, we can assume it's because he was immediately arrested and thrown in jail after the ending of Far From Home.

Problem solved!

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#107082: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:58:01 PM

Next stop: Spider-Man: Homeless.

Yes, old joke is old, but I never got to make this joke myself. tongue

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#107083: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:58:39 PM

[up][up] Reminds me of my headcanon that Garfield's Spider-Man died fighting the Rhino after the screen cut to black in The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

In fact, what is it with Spider-Man works ending on downer cliffhangers?

Edited by chasemaddigan on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:58:50 AM

qwigly Since: Mar, 2016
#107084: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:02:14 PM

How did Spider-Man 3 end again? I usually black out after he starts playing piano.

JamieMoon The Bad Witch from The Background World Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The Bad Witch
#107085: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:04:35 PM

[up][up][up][up] Just what that menace deserves!

Edited by JamieMoon on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:05:33 AM

"Cold and black and infinite, with nothing left to lose."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107086: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:04:46 PM

[up][up] That one actually has a Bittersweet Ending — Pete and MJ reconcile after Harry's death and share a dance.

Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:05:40 AM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#107087: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:08:06 PM

[up]x3 Harry takes the sharp pointy thing for Spidey, Venom and Eddie get blown to bits by a pumpkin bomb, Peter and Harry become best friends again as Harry lays dying, Peter chooses to forgive Sandman and lets him get away, and the movie ends as Peter and MJ just stand there silently against the sunrise.

So, bittersweet and a bit too wrapped-up to be a cliffhanger.

Edited by TrashJack on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:09:16 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#107088: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:23:25 PM

Hot take - the best spider-man films are those not in MCU: Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107089: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:26:03 PM

I just want more of the spider-family cast on the big screen & I only trust Marvel to pull it off.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#107090: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:45:35 PM

[up][up]Even though it's not a movie at all, throw the PS4 game in the mix as well.

The legend has returned.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#107091: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:47:07 PM

One of the problems with Far From Home is something already pointed out — it seemed to be more about Tony Stark's legacy than about Peter Parker.

...Geez, even when he's dead Tony is still fucking things up.

Edited by M84 on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:47:58 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#107092: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:48:44 PM

If we get Ironheat its gonna make all that stuff about Peter being Tony's successor weird.

[up] Like death can stop a person's influence on the world.

Half the problems in Game of Thrones is exactly because of the shit dead people left behind.

Goddamn Rhaegar & Lyanna!

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:51:24 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#107093: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:50:08 PM

There's a certain irony about how FFH makes it an explicit theme that Spidey will now be the new Face of the MCU, filling the hole left by Tony Stark... only to abruptly get yanked out. tongue

dmcreif Vault Dweller from Vault 33 (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Vault Dweller
#107094: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:56:12 PM

[up][up][up] Also, there was a Captain America movie about fixing problems created by Tony Stark, and at least one Avengers movie about that subject.

In Far From Home and Homecoming, the villains were Iron Man villains. Happy had a large role. Peter was told over and over again he was Iron Man's heir. He developed a suit with Tony's technology. There were Iron Man pictures everywhere. Tony had a flashback cameo in FFH and a minor role in Homecoming. Vulture and Mysterio are Spider-Man villains in the comics, but they reimagined both as people pissed off at Tony, with Vulture being a guy screwed out of his salvaging company by Damage Control, while Mysterio was inspired by Tony's terrible behavior and just after Spider-Man so he could get Tony's glasses.

Okey Dokey!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#107095: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:19:10 PM

Much as I like Disney's works, I hate corporate hegemony and would be totally open to the company being fed some humble pie with respect to its current quest to buy the rights to ALL THE STUFF. No empire can last forever.

I just... don't want that to take the form of a corporate peen-waving contest that leaves the creators and fans holding the bag.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:22:14 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#107096: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:23:23 PM

Fun fact: if not for Disney, under pre-1976 copyright law Spider-Man would’ve entered the public domain as of last January.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#107097: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:53:56 PM

[up] I mean, that was primarily because not many people actually copyrighted things pre-1908.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107098: Aug 20th 2019 at 9:05:21 PM

How many people listen to Midnight's Edge? Because they've been saying this was going to happen when Venom became a hit.

And also the initial Deadline article might have been orchestrated by Sony? (Rothman is f*cking evil.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 20th 2019 at 12:15:57 PM

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#107099: Aug 20th 2019 at 9:20:13 PM

Please don't watch Midnight's Edge, he's a comicgater.

And, it seems that is officially official: Sony reps have confirmed that their deal is over and put all blame on Disney.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#107100: Aug 20th 2019 at 9:25:03 PM

[up] Sony is blaming Disney, even when they're the reason Far From Home turned out as well as it did?

I call B. EFFING. S on that statement and my blood is boiling so much right now.


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