Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules
still apply.
- This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
- While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread
. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
- Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.
If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I think a lot of people jumped the gun here
It ain't over yet
Edited by MrHellboy on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:16:24 AM
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.Okay, apparently the negotiations are still ongoing.
Evidently, Kevin Feige wanted a producer credit on Morbius and Venom 2. And also Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige would help out on other SUMC movies.
Which Tom Rothman shot down.
(Because that makes total sense.)
EDIT:
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:17:53 AM
Please don't do this Sony and Disney. Don't let Peter Parker's last word be fu- in this continuity. But seriously, this has to be the most stressful day for me with the situation I have at work and the news I am hearing write now.
Leaving the table completely just means that you're going to look greedy in the press. I guarantee that most people are going to blame Sony if the deal falls through and not Disney.
You want to see some really terrible negotiatons? See the Writers' Strike of 2008:
Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 4:59:07 AM
So after looking at the other news links, apparently negotiations are not final yet.
How much you wanna bet this is just a publicity stunt to keep people talking about Spider Man until it's time for the next one.
Like creepy stories? Check out my book!![]()
![]()
![]()
A lot of people say that but I didn't find it very funny either.
Edited by LordVatek on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:24:51 AM
This song needs more love.Leaving the table completely just means that you're going to look greedy in the press. I guarantee that most people are going to blame Sony if the deal falls through and not Disney.
And considering Sony were trying to keep the deal at exactly where everyone already agreed was fair a few years as go, theres nothing else they could do to not look greedy here is people were always going to take Disneys sideno matter what.
I always feared this day would come, though I don’t think I’m freaking out, per se. If Tom Holland and the others were being left out to dry, I’d be pissed, but it does sound like they’ll be sticking around regardless, so it’s not the worst case scenario.
I do think it would also be nice for Spider-Man to rely on its own cast, rather than continuing to exist in the shadow of Tony Start (though that hardly ruined the films or anything). That being said, I WOULD be disappointed if this meant that Spider-Man could no longer make appearances outside of his movies.
It does sound like Disney’s the bad guy here, honestly. I’m no fan of Sony, but Disney’s sheer greed gets on my nerves a lot lately, and this is just the latest example of that. Surely they don’t need MORE money.
Hopefully, they manage to come to a deal after all. Still, what happens happens, I suppose.
Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:55:31 AM
Oh God! Natural light!Hell, this isn't even the first time they've renegotiated the deal.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:01:59 AM
Again, Sony had a counter for Disney's offer of co-producing and naming Feige as a producer for its other Spidey-adjacent movies, Disney turned them down.
Sony didn't just proverbially storm out of the room.
Most likely Disney will come back with a different offer in a few months.
Edited by ArthurEld on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:07:55 AM
"Sources said that Sony, led by Tom Rothman and Tony Vinciquerra, came back with other configurations, but Disney didn’t want to do that."
I was panicking a little when the news hit, but now that it's clear that this was all a negotiating tactic, I'm significantly calmer. I really hope that this ends with Spidey still in the MCU, Far From Home is my favorite Spider-Man film (yes, even more than Spiderverse, I didn't fall in love with it as hard as everyone else did), and it would have been so painful to just leave off right at that monster of a cliff-hanger.

Walking away is the only way to take a bad opening offer off the table entirely, and get Disney to propose a better point that they can negotiate from.