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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
That's what I'm wondering about. I don't think it's necessarily a raw 50% of profits but 50% of control over the content of the film (and whatever profits that ensue, even if it doesn't come out to exactly 50%).
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I’m just gonna hate everyone.
Marvel for going bankrupt and selling the film rights in the first place, Sony for holding on so tight, Disney for getting involved and the fans because I don’t want anyone to be left out.
One Strip! One Strip!Well, what I read said the Disney offer was a 50/50 split down the middle, profit and co-financing from top to bottom, which would make them full partners. I would also assume an offer to rearrange the merchandising would be required at some point. That is a whole different ballgame than we propose to increase our profit share by an order of magnitude. Now make a counter offer, if you please.
Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:02:58 AM
@The Mageof Fire: Oh, not questioning that, dear Noel, I'm just pointing out that the mangling already happened once.
Yeah, we don't have Unc Ben in the MCU, but so what? If the choice is between a terrible adaptation with Unc Ben and a very good adaptation without, well, it's a no-brainer, ain't it?
It is a thing among critics because they watch movies for work.
The mistake those critics make is that the average viewer expects the same novelty they demand.
Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:12:02 AM
If i remember correctly Disney owns literally everything but Movie Rights, including Merchandising and TV for all Spider-Man characters. Sony is really shooting themselves in the foot as they now literally cannot sell Spidey Merchandise at all or license out its use without paying Disney, who instead of sharing the money will likely charge Sony through the nose.
Edited by DragonKent17 on Aug 20th 2019 at 5:27:02 AM
Man, this video from I'm a Marvel... And I'm a DC seems more relevant now given recent developments (see 1:30)
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Thanks. If the initial deal included a split between the merchandise as well, than that seems foolish on Sony's part. If that isn't the case and Disney comes back with that as an addendum, than I would think Sony would reconsider.
Edit: Also, would the deal apply only to Spider-Man movies or are there other arrangements for other appearances Spider-Man makes in the MCU?
Edited by Kakuzan on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:20:13 AM
Don't catch you slippin' now.Now it seems like other people are saying that Disney and Sony can still compromise and a few are even saying that the jumping the gun was an intentional negotiation tactic from Disney weaponizing blind fanboy rage.
Edited by LordVatek on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:21:58 AM
This song needs more love.Guy, guys, I don't think you understand...
This is a negotiating tactic.
Disney asked for more money, yes. As is their right - after all, they just made Sony's highest grossing film ever and all they are getting was 5%. Hell, Sony is re-releasing the film in theaters to get more money, so it's not unreasonable that Disney would want more. Now, is 50% too high? Probably, but that was their first offer. Generally, a negotiation requires back-and-forth, but Sony didn't do that, they just rejected the offer and said, "We're taking Spider-Man and going home."
Hell, Disney even offered to have Marvel Studios help them with their other Spider-movies, but Sony didn't want to budge on the deal.
So Disney probably leaked everything to press and said, "Fine, let's see how your audience responds."
Yeah, Sony didn't like that. In fact, they responded
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Which probably means, in a few weeks, we'll see that they made a new deal. Probably for less than 50%, but more than the 5% they are getting now. I'm betting a good 15-20%, with 5% on any other Spider-Man-related properties, too.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:23:21 AM
Currently, Sony still has Tom Holland on contract for two more Spider-Man films.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:34:18 AM
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So all this time, it was actually a misconception similar to when Sony would be patenting Spider-Verse's visual styleWhat really happened: but taken Up To Eleven?

I might be the only person to actually be slightly happy if Spider-Man returns to Sony. I'm still not over the MCU butchering the Uncle Ben storyline to replace him with bigger-than-god Tony Stank.
Okey Dokey!