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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
"Thats a terrible impression"
Also, Agents of SHIELD seemed to give up trying to one-sidedly tie into the movies somewhere in the last couple seasons. There were a few nods but AOS started just doing its own thing.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWhich is probably for the best. They gave up on ever getting senpai MCU to notice them.
Which isn't to say the MCU hasn't kicked the Netflix shows in the teeth a time or two, as well. The most glaring being when Luke Cage was like, "Even a cubic centimeter of Chitauri metal costs A MILLION BAJILLION QUINTILLION ULTRADOLLARS." And then the Film Team was like, "Here's a dude selling Chitauri guns out of a van. Fifty bucks up front, I can get you a Leviathan."
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2019 at 9:57:39 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@Tobias- I love your way of summing up the Judas Bullets issue. Was trying to summarize that disconnect myself, but couldn't put it as well/amusingly.
My other issue is that while it wasn't "necessary" to explain Toomes' tech as derived from Cithauri technology, since in comics world, technical geniuses regularly produce that kind of stuff, it was used in a clever way in the movie and felt plausible as an explanation.
On the other hand, the Judas Bullets feel like a desperate or perfunctory attempt to connect the Netflix shows to the MCU, because armor piercing bullets already exist, and there's no real reason aliens are needed to explain why a somewhat more advanced fictional version exists.
Vulture's alien-based weaponry was also less shit than the Judas bullets so maybe Diamondback was an idiot and everyone who ever bought from him were also idiots.
Its not that much of a stretch, honestly.
See, you gotta comparison shop.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIn one scene the Captain is shown surviving to a Chitauri projectile, so it is strange that a simple bullet can potentially kill Cage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT3odor8t9I
(3:16)
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Aug 15th 2019 at 9:44:30 AM
...Also, I think Cap was hit with an energy weapon, not a projectile.
Shotgun-axe wins. It's a better design.
The gunblade's a weird f*cking design. It's a sword primarily used for swinging with a gun attached to the handle. This puts the blade directly along the bullet's trajectory, which can cause all kinds of major problems since you're supposed to pull the trigger as you swing the sword.
Wild ricochets and blade damage seem like they should be the norm.
The shotgun-axe, on the other hand, puts the blade outside the path of the shotgun. It's primarily used as a shotgun, with the ability to swing the axe as needed. The axe is basically a fancy version of a bayonet, which is a time-tested and proven feature for combat arms.
There are concerns that the weight added by the axe might affect accuracy, but that's the beauty of it. It's a shotgun. You're not exactly meant to be sniping with it.
Gunblades are like lightsabers; they're Awesome, but Impractical weapons that would require years of training just to achieve the same level of basic weapons competency as if you were just using an ordinary sword. But the shotgun-axe is a neat combination of weapons that go together like chocolate and peanut butter, with few real drawbacks.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2019 at 12:53:58 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I-
I mean-
Uh-
Hmm.
Damn it, I knew I should've picked the BFG 9000!
Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 15th 2019 at 4:11:39 PM
Also, as an aside,
It's funny how often media does this. Often, a work will introduce fantasy implements that are basically just normal things we have in the real world, but with magic doodly-bobs glued to them.
Like, we all know that Icers are just tranquilizer pistols that make a cool blue zap-zap when they fire. It's just repackaging shit we've had since the 50's as cutting-edge futuristic super-tech.
But it looks super cool. Plus the blue zap-zap lets us know when our heroes are not killing people versus when they are killing people, so we accept it.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:17:26 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Also no dart so cleanup is easier and they can fit more zaps in the clip than darts. Zaps is smaller than darts because fewer letters.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWell, also, tranquilizer guns don't really work the way they do in movies. If you get hit with a tranquilizer dart, it'll take at least half a minute before you start feeling the effects, and a bit longer before you go from being woozy to actually unconscious. Then there's how, unless you know the size and general health of who you're shooting beforehand, you could easily end up shooting someone full of the wrong amount of tranquilizer: either so little that they don't collapse, or so much that they have a fatal overdose.
Marvel cinematic tranquilizer guns appear to work in the unrealistic way that movie tranquilizers do though.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm surprised nobody has called the Infinity Gauntlet or the Ultimate Nullifier
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Hell, this is what Jeph Loeb had to say about the show
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Well, for me, at least.
Edited by alliterator on Aug 15th 2019 at 8:56:10 AM