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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106826: Aug 14th 2019 at 4:56:30 PM

For a moment there, I thought you were talking about Finn from Adventure Time.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106827: Aug 14th 2019 at 4:57:27 PM

[up]Wait, they weren't? I don't watch Adventure Time.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106828: Aug 14th 2019 at 4:58:12 PM

This definitely needs a prequel film where they’ve got to steal the plans to reveal the TIE fighters’ tiny weak point.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 14th 2019 at 4:58:27 AM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#106829: Aug 14th 2019 at 4:59:44 PM

Like, let be honest: if it is reveal the marvel universe and the start wars under disney are the same one, would anyone here be surprise?

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106830: Aug 14th 2019 at 5:01:10 PM

[up]For my part I'd be too busy foaming from the mouth in anger.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#106831: Aug 14th 2019 at 5:02:46 PM

You know, now that willow said it, is funny how loki is the one who portray as untrustworthy when Hemidall comit treason over and over in the movies. evil grin

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#106832: Aug 14th 2019 at 5:06:05 PM

There is a difference between "My boss is making an ass of himself" and trying to take the throne out of an inferiority complex.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106833: Aug 14th 2019 at 5:45:58 PM

Star Wars can easily coexist with the marvel universe

Because it took place a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

Nothing is needed to ever fit Star Wars anywhere because it always takes place way before anything else and also way far from anywhere else

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106834: Aug 14th 2019 at 6:04:35 PM

wild mass guessStar Wars takes place in the same universe as The Room.wild mass guess

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#106835: Aug 14th 2019 at 6:25:02 PM

Heh, that Elba news reminded me that he expressed interest in playing Blade in a MCU reboot, and he had already talked about Feige about it. Imagine if Heimdall pops-up in Blade, although Elba wouldn't be playing the title character, I imagine he would be pleased of appearing in it.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#106836: Aug 14th 2019 at 6:48:59 PM

That Medium article does a pretty good job of summing up why I didn't care for what they did with Peggy in Endgame, even if a big chunk of it is because I'm one of the relative few who watched Agent Carter, where her ability to move on from Steve was a major plot and character development point, and thus the ending marks a regression not just for Steve but for her as well. In addition to the whole passive Lost Lenore aspect when her appearances in The Winter Soldier, Civil War, and also Ant-Man all celebrated her youthful agency.

Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 14th 2019 at 9:55:17 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106837: Aug 14th 2019 at 7:03:51 PM

It felt like the writers came up first with the ending of "Steve goes back in time to stay with Peggy" and then "foreshadowed" it backwards from there, resulting in scenes where Steve's seemingly mourning her out of blue in scenarios where it didn't make sense. Especially with the show emphasizing Peggy moving on.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#106838: Aug 14th 2019 at 7:08:16 PM

That scene where an elderly Peggy Carter forgets what's happening and thinks Steve finally came back to her probably had something to do with Cap's decision to go back.

That scene shows that, while she did make a good life for herself and accomplished a lot, a small part of her never got over Steve.

Edited by M84 on Aug 14th 2019 at 10:09:17 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106839: Aug 14th 2019 at 8:29:44 PM

It’s an alternate Peggy anyway

Such is the wonder of nonsense

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106840: Aug 14th 2019 at 9:33:13 PM

I would like if the Sam and Bucky show opens with them being asked about the issue and Sam just going "The fuck if I know."

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#106841: Aug 14th 2019 at 10:40:44 PM

So, here's how I guess I would've handled it. Not sure if I've proposed this before or how practical it would be if applied to canon but I would've had it so Steve, after putting the Stones and Mjolnir back, went to see Peggy...except it's just a short visit, they get that dance and it's a nice reunion, but he still goes back to the present after he's had that dance. Then once he's back he still decides to retire, sticking to counseling and such rather than fighting, and offers the shield to Sam and Bucky should either one feel like taking up the mantle.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#106842: Aug 14th 2019 at 10:46:12 PM

Star Wars takes place in the same universe as The Room.

Anakin: Everybody betray me. I fed up with this world.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#106843: Aug 14th 2019 at 10:58:42 PM

Huh ya know since the MCU is sorta open to actors repressing roles from other franchises now & it’s somewhat expected for Ryan Reynold’s to remain as Deadpool in whatever they have planned for the character how would you feel on the idea on some of the actors from Fox’s X-Men reprises the same characters like Sophie Turner back as Jean Grey?

Like it’s a pretty bum wrap that the actors like Turner & Alexandra Ship who played Storm went out with a whimper in Dark Phoenix & the Foxmen’s general decline.

I think it be sweet if they got the chance for like a redo or something to that effect & actually be in good movies.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 14th 2019 at 11:00:30 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#106844: Aug 14th 2019 at 11:30:37 PM

On the conversation about romance in film last page, I agree that romance is WAY too played out, and unless it's actually important to the movie's plot, it should not be included. I remember saying as much to my film teacher, who actively works in Hollywood writing scripts, and he disgrees. He basically said that every movie should have a good romance.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106845: Aug 15th 2019 at 1:31:41 AM

I liked Tye Sheridan as Cyclops and felt he did the best with what he was given, but I'm expecting recasts across the board, Ryan Reynolds excepted obviously.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106846: Aug 15th 2019 at 3:20:58 AM

[up]x2 I used to think like you, but I've soften up a lot on tge subject.

For me, a romance is welcome as long as it doesn't turn into a tumor and swallows the rest of the plot.

It's a side-dish, and I can like it or not, but as long as it remains a side-dish it doesn't bother me.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#106847: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:49:20 AM

...huh.

Apparently the upcoming Ghost Rider show, despite starring Gabriel Luna reprising his role as Robbie Reyes, is not considered to be in continuity with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Variety has learned exclusively that Luna will star in the recently announced Hulu live-action series based on the comic book character. This will mark the second time that Luna has played Ghost Rider, previously appearing as the character in the ABC-Marvel series “Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.” However, sources stress that this will be a completely new iteration of the character in no way connected to the “Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.” storyline.

We've all known the sentiment was there for years, but I think this is the closest to an official "We don't f*cking care about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." statement that Marvel's ever given.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106848: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:49:58 AM

Alas

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106849: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:50:35 AM

And nothing of value was lost.

Well, for me, at least.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#106850: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:52:22 AM

Eh, the show's better than people give it credit for.

It just suffers from unwanted stepchild syndrome. As much as it's wanted to be the Expanded Universe to the films since its conception, its relationship with them was always one-sided. Agents would go out of its way to be like, "Look at this plot point from the films! Look at these themes that are just like the movies' themes! We're totally following along with their continuity. PLEASE LOVE ME MARVEL DADDY."

And the films were just like, "That's nice. Whatever. Mm-hmm."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2019 at 9:56:17 AM

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