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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#106626: Aug 9th 2019 at 12:46:38 PM

Exactly.

Ronan's a shallow villain but he serves his role as an overwhelming antagonistic force that requires five disparate anti-heroes to come together and give a shit for once. He doesn't need to be much more developed than "single-minded radical terrorist who will stop at nothing to destroy the people he's been indoctrinated to hate since his birth". We have plenty of those in real life.

It's a similar principle to why the villains in origin movies tend to be pretty shallow doppelgangers of the hero with the same powerset. You have to devote a lot of the film to introducing the hero, showing the origin of their superpowers, and giving them some kind of character arc where they grow into a hero. There's not much room in the runtime for a villain who has their own character arc or separate power source.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106627: Aug 9th 2019 at 12:50:40 PM

Oh yeah, can't wait to see Mary Sue Danvers commiting genocide of the Kree.

It's good to see you consistently parrot the same talking points on multiple sites.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 9th 2019 at 12:51:33 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106628: Aug 9th 2019 at 12:57:37 PM

[up]What, people need to change their opinions whenever they post on different fora just so someone who ''might'" visit the same won't get bored of reading them?

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#106629: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:05:13 PM

[up]Spamming?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#106630: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:06:31 PM

single issue wonks

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#106631: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:06:59 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]The issue with marvel is that more often than not they see their villians as just kinda there, a prop while the movie feel more like shelling their hero for the inevitable sequel they know the chararter will have.

This is somethign I said in star wars thread that Marvel act and is judge more like tv series that just sort of happen to be with movies, their villians are bland because they dont matter really.

Edited by unknowing on Aug 9th 2019 at 4:07:17 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#106632: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:10:08 PM

I like Captain Marvel as a character in Endgame, but for whatever reason, I just really did not have a good first impression of her on her first movie.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106633: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:16:01 PM

What, people need to change their opinions whenever they post on different fora just so someone who ''might'" visit the same won't get bored of reading them?

No, I just recognized the name and talking points. Some people seem to be obsessed with certain things for some reason.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#106634: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:17:25 PM

Got some links to back that assertion?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106636: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:21:28 PM

Got some links to back that assertion?

No.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 9th 2019 at 1:28:09 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#106637: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:26:40 PM

Well,I'm asking for evidence,cos if true I''ll report the posts so they can be thumped,single issue wonkers are a pain along with walls of text

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#106638: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:27:52 PM

Ah, I see. My bad. Nah, it's not that serious. I don't even know if they've posted elsewhere in this thread before.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 9th 2019 at 1:28:07 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#106639: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:30:09 PM

-checks their posting history for this website-

No other posts outside this one,likely they registered here solely to wonk

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#106640: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:31:57 PM

Prior to their participation in this thread, this person has only made a thread complaining about MCU Ronan (the exact same thing they were posting here, in fact) which was shut down by the mods immediately. Seems like they were just here to wonk and be negative.

Edited by Nightwire on Aug 9th 2019 at 1:35:51 AM

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#106641: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:44:06 PM

If they're violating forum policy, report them. I haven't seen anything this person has said that's a violation of policy, but I'm not a mod and am thus not as familiar with policy as mods are.

You know what I do know is a violation of policy? Shifting conversation away from the topic in favor of debating the personal merits of a forum member. So we should probably put a pin in that.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 9th 2019 at 2:45:40 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#106642: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:48:47 PM

So the captain marvel movie is like £3.49 to rent and I'm like "Well,now I have no excuse!"

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#106643: Aug 9th 2019 at 1:57:10 PM

"I just really did not have a good first impression of her on her first movie."

Kina the same, maybe because we arent really see carol in that movie much but "vers" who is just look kinda grump most of the movie, and I think marvel dosent know how to make grumpy chararters

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#106644: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:01:20 PM

I liked Carol in the first movie, though I do agree that she got a lot better in Endgame (indeed, I think she was almost under-utilized in that movie). In the first movie, I didn't quite get what her shtick or gimmick was, personality wise. In Endgame I started to get the Smug Super idea they were going for, which I quite enjoyed.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#106645: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:02:19 PM

Yeah, I feel fury and carol friend carry out the movie while she is kinda sort of....there.

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#106646: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:06:44 PM

My favorite bit about Carol in her film is that she likes to prank people. Despite her initial devotion to being a good obedient Kree soldier, when she has the chance to mess with a friend, she’ll take it. Like prodding Yon-Rogg, making Fury confess to weird stuff, or “totally didn’t cheat” in her race against Maria. It seems to be a show of affection from her, that she’s knows they won’t reprimand her too hard because they’re friends.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 9th 2019 at 2:09:33 AM

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#106647: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:21:03 PM

Is it on Netflix or Hulu? I haven’t seen it yet.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106648: Aug 9th 2019 at 2:22:03 PM

Neither. It's going to be on Disney+ when it comes out.

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Funny but not helpful
#106649: Aug 9th 2019 at 3:08:17 PM

She snarks and smirks and as said prods her way through the movie

I don’t see that as being a grump

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#106650: Aug 9th 2019 at 5:06:55 PM

I enjoyed Carol's snarkery well enough in that vanilla likeable Marvel lead way, but yeah, I don't blame other people who find her rather safe and "corporate feminist"y at all.


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