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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106576: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:44:12 PM

Even better would be if Deadpool started being dubbed with "alternate" swear words, like they do in TV when showing R-rated movies. "You monkey-lover!"

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106577: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:44:21 PM

Deadpool learns to swear in Groot.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#106578: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:44:34 PM

"PEAS AND RICE! FIND ME IN THE ALPS!"

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#106579: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:51:42 PM

All of this would work pretty perfectly. I now approve of PG-13 Deadpool.cool

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#106580: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:08:32 PM

Nah, Deadpool can work in PG-13. That was the whole point of Once Upon a Deadpool, if I'm not mistaken.

I always thought the appeal of Deadpool came from not just the cussing and violence, but the bizarre situations he gets involved in.

Besides, if he really needs to cuss, he could take a page from The Good Place and substitute "sh*t" with "shirt", "f*ck" with "fork," and so on.

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#106581: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:09:55 PM

The main appeal of Deadpool comes from the shameless fourth-wall breaking. Which, as noted, works perfectly fine in PG-13. Like, just impaling a dude on his swords wouldn't be funny without "My boyfriend told me this was a superhero movie but he just turned that guy into a f*cking-kebab."

The gratuitous over-the-top violence is just icing on the cake. His edgy 90's antihero shtick provides fuel for him to make black comedy fourth-wall jokes, but his shtick being funny doesn't absolutely require it. Indeed, in the comics, he's been part of plenty of team-ups that wouldn't let him get away with the same kind of stuff his own solo comics and X-Force do.

EDIT: Y'know, it's a shame Chris Evans left. I'd love to see Deadpool use up a film's one allowed F-bomb, and then in the stinger, he's personally apologizing to a very confused Captain America for it.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 7th 2019 at 2:14:37 AM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#106582: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:15:10 PM

Oh, and if/when we get that Spider-Man/Deadpool team-up, I demand that we get the moment when they wore matching Christmas sweaters.

I don't care how they justify it, I just want it.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 7th 2019 at 4:18:49 AM

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#106583: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:19:23 PM

"It's a deal! I'll keep your secret and you won't tell the Mouse I had a Helicarrier in my first movie. We'll be secret-besties!"

Man, I am so psyched for the potential of MCU Deadpool.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106584: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:23:11 PM

If Bob is still alive, he can actually be a HYDRA agent now.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#106585: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:36:10 PM

  • Wade: What have you been up to, man?
  • Bob: Well, I was working for Hydra, but then pretty much the whole chain of command was taken out by the Avengers. Also the Agents of—
  • Wade: SH SH SHHH!!! Zip it! We do not talk about them. It was in the contract Disney made us sign.
  • Bob: Right. Anyway, I haven't been able to get in touch with anyone for a couple years now. So. I guess I am Hydra, now.

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#106586: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:43:05 PM

[up]x5. I'd like to see a scene where Deadpool tries to swear but Falcon gives him the bad language warning, while Hawkeye is all like "you mean YOU do that too?".

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#106587: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:50:06 PM

A scene where Deadpool admits in a teamup that the rating is keeping him from doing the things he normally would in his solo movies would be a good wall break.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#106588: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:52:58 PM

"Normally this is the part where i drop a couple of f bombs and take the Lord's name in vain but since this a family friendly movie I'll do no such thing,no sir..instead I'll mindly curse under my breath for the next 2 hours until the credits roll or whatever"

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#106589: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:03:51 PM

"Please go watch my movies if you're old enough. But only if you're old enough."

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#106590: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:21:48 PM

With crossovers between series of different ratings, my understanding is the big issue is that it might give people the wrong idea about the more mature-rated work. For example, having Deadpool crossover with Spiderman in a PG-13 movie might (even if unintentionally) advertise an R-rated movie to teenagers.

This is why, IIRC, there aren't many crossovers between Dr. Who and Torchwood, since the former is much more kid-friendly than the latter, and they don't want to give kids the idea of tuning into Torchwood thinking it was just like Dr. Who.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#106591: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:23:42 PM

> This is why, IIRC, there aren't many crossovers between Dr. Who and Torchwood, since the former is much more kid-friendly than the latter, and they don't want to give kids the idea of tuning into Torchwood thinking it was just like Dr. Who.

Aside from that Cyberwoman that showed up,or Martha appearing

oops

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106592: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:24:09 PM

[up][up]I still find it slightly weird seeing people give a crap about ratings, coming from a country where you're allowed to watch pretty much anything the moment you hit 12.

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 7th 2019 at 6:24:59 AM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#106593: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:24:54 PM

@Ultimatum To be fair, I did say "many", though admittedly I'm not overly familiar with either.

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#106594: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:33:06 PM

Torchwood appeared during the dalek two parter with the crucible

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 7th 2019 at 5:34:19 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#106595: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:39:37 PM

yeah but that was on the main series itself so there was no concern about inappropriate content

I discovered they dont Torchwood epsidoes on iplayer anymore,which is a pity

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#106596: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:59:42 PM

With crossovers between series of different ratings, my understanding is the big issue is that it might give people the wrong idea about the more mature-rated work. For example, having Deadpool crossover with Spiderman in a PG-13 movie might (even if unintentionally) advertise an R-rated movie to teenagers.

This is why, IIRC, there aren't many crossovers between Dr. Who and Torchwood, since the former is much more kid-friendly than the latter, and they don't want to give kids the idea of tuning into Torchwood thinking it was just like Dr. Who.

I was actually going to bring this exact thing up. To be more precise for those who pointed out Torchwood showing up in The Stolen Earth / Journey's End, and Martha appearing in an episode of Season 2, it was only the Doctor himself who never physically appeared in Torchwood. The closest we got was the last few minutes of season 1 of Torchwood leading into the first part of the 3 part finale of Series 3 of Doctor Who, wherein Jack joined in on the adventure with Martha and the Doctor.

That being said, they apparently lightened on that idea, since the Peter Capaldi Doctor appeared in the final minutes of episode 1 of Class, which was essentially the illegitimate child of both Torch Wood and The Sarah Jane Adventures, being Darker and Edgier than the latter, but Lighter and Softer than the former.

So yeah, PG-13 crossing over with Rated-R (Superstar) is difficult.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106598: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:23:03 PM

Russos asked about how old Cap came back.

You are correct in that he would have had to have worn the quantum suit, using a pym particle to make the jump. He's not wearing the suit on the bench, because that is not the exact moment to which he returned.

Cap meeting the Red Skull again.

Anthony: It was probably more awkward than you imagine it was. Red Skull felt slated [sic:slighted] because Cap didn't recognize him.

If Thor was weaker at the climax of Endgame than in Infinity War.

Anthony: The difficult road that Thor's traveled ultimately gave him strength. He was stronger than ever by the end of Endgame.

Russos confirmed Skrulls.

We're not really brothers. One of us is an actor playing a brother.

Also they’re working on another Marvel IP.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 7th 2019 at 7:23:47 AM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#106599: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:41:16 PM

So Cap just went there on the exact day, on the exact moment he left, and sat on that bench just to be extra.

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#106600: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:50:22 PM

I just assumed he came back a couple hours earlier and was sitting on that bench the whole time.


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