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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
"The MCU is unapologetically the exact same kind of Fantasy Kitchen Sink that the comics are"
No so close, first they have arc weld some element like the eye of agamoto beng time stone rather than a genuie mistical artefact or welding the inhuman into the next mutant rather than having two group of people with power with diferent backstory that in snecesary, we havent seen the street hero like jessica or daredevil fighting bigger treats and some element are just outgrow of other: the asgard are present as stargate kind of alien based in mythos and with the chitauri is just easier to bring more aliens,etc.
Is getting really close but no so much yet.
"Oh look, two movies. Out of twenty-three. "
Is almost I just said a example instead of naming very single movie to someone to nitpick my complain away, you know?.
So far when i tcome to humor, the russo brother movies often manage better used of humor because is more situational than "make a joke in a serious moment" but stuff like cape joke in doctor strange, the avenger with hulk moment that wheedon reuse in age of ultron, Thor in the subway in is second movie, the list goes on and on.
" Ultron doesn't cease being scary because someone said a quip."
Yes it does because the chararter dosent really take hi seriously, and quiping isnt scary, being scary....is.
I mean is introction in the stark party? scary, him overpowering thor and this one saying "I dont know what else to said" and rest that follow just make ultro the butt of the joke.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
Not to mention, said high school science nerd from Queens got a ride from a magic hammer (tossed by a WWII veteran that was frozen in ice who was worthy of said hammer) while he was clinging onto it via a web and was shortly greeted by an ace pilot with cosmic powers and was immediately surrounded by other super hero type ladies.
Man, I love how the MCU has evolved so much that we can say/type stuff like this unironically.
(And yeah, Spider-Man riding Mjolnir was a highlight for me.)
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 31st 2019 at 12:17:11 PM
Unknown feels that Ultron's tendency to quip takes away from the intimidation factor, which I agree: Ao U turns Ultron into the loser cousin of Tony Stark.
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And?
The point is that the quipping isn't why he's less intimidating.
He's less intimidating because he's not turning entire countries into mass graves.
If you want a movie with a deadly serious Killer Robot antagonist, go watch the original Terminator movie.
Age of Ultron was a shit movie, but Ultron quipping wasn't why.
Edited by M84 on Aug 1st 2019 at 1:02:16 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedThe quipping is part of it: Ultron acts like he's so above the Avengers he doesn't need to take them seriously, yet every time he's onscreen he gets his metal ass kicked, making him look like an incompetent buffoon.
If he lived up to the threat the trailers were hyping him up to be that would be another thing, but as is he's on the same threat level as a Powers Rangers villain.
For me, Ultron killing an entire country before being defeated by the Avengers would turn the movie into a tragedy. And it's not something I want to see.
If you are going to have the villain do something big and show the Avengers in defeat, I prefer the way Infinity War did it — they failed big and it took them five years to overcome it and bring everyone back. Ultron killing an entire country just means that we would see the mass murder of millions of people, which I don't want to see.
I mean, you could say the same thing with Loki, too — every time the Avengers fight Loki, they defeat him. But you don't call him "the same threat level as a Power Rangers villain."
Edited by alliterator on Jul 31st 2019 at 10:08:32 AM
Him quipping and beng human was supose to be a good step to make him diferent from the overuse and genereic robot villian.
Problem is you need to give him "presence" as villian, and aura that said he could do anything evil in any moment, without it, is quipping make him look like a damn teenager and a cruch, in the end ultron is just a lesser version of loki.
To contrast with another villian take zemo, the guy probaby have the less screen time of any marvel villian to date and yet he got that...."presence" for the lack of a better world, you can belive he have a pla to defeat the avenger, I feel he is kinda overated but I cant deny he carry out is villain creed, Ultron dosent and because of that, is quipping come as a quirk rather feature.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not""Thor used to be a myth; now we study him in my physics class." ~Spider-Man, aptly summarizing the MCU.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It also should be noted that Ultron worked up to killing a country. He didn’t do it right out the gate. First he recruited some supervillains to beat up the Avengers and wore a silly costume. And then he built a robot to beat up the Avengers for him
Forever liveblogging the Avengers@alliterator: I don't- Dude, I've gone on and on and on about how I hate the fact that Loki is a complete jobber who strips the movie of any sort of tension; that's one of the reasons I hate The Avengers.
And the way you put it only makes it worse: Ultron leaves all of the work for his damn flunkies, accomplishing nothing for himself.
Thanos first showed up and beat the Hulk to a pulp, they should've made Ultron do something comparable.
And an army of killer robots means jack shit when they're all defeated by the end with little trouble: at least the Outriders started with an advantage, and the Chitauri were starying to win at the end.
That's literally the same complaint people have with The Hand.
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Yeah and he grab the idiot ball pretty much in that scene, is funny sure but nonesensical.
"The tension doesn't come from anyone thinking the Avengers are going to die — everyone knows they are going to live"
tension come from villian having a plan to defeat the avenger and see HOW the avenger work about that, we all know snap would be undo, that dosent make thannos less therating.
Anad even that of saving life become a moot point were fury come with a helicarrier out of is ass, showing the avenger have not way to save the people and only the writer could save them, it was probably the worst scene in the entire MCU.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Nothing like a franchise that showcases a high school science nerd from Queens who got bitten by a radioactive spider not only fighting alongside a rich guy with a nanotech suit, a surgeon-turned-wizard, and half of a band of space pirate/bounty-hunting misfits of various species from all across the galaxy against a giant purple nutsack-chin madman and his shiny golden gauntlet outfitted with magical gemstones, but also briefly riding a pegasus that belongs to a hundred-of-years-old bisexual alcoholic warrior who, along with the aforementioned rich guy's CEO wife, gives him assistance while he attempts to get the aforementioned gauntlet to a van with a La Cucaracha siren.
That was a lot to type out on mobile.
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